Not to smart with electronics

spudster9904
spudster9904 Posts: 1
edited December 2009 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I Just upgraded my tv to a 46'Sony Bravia that came with a sony blue ray disc/dvd player. I had went to American TV store and listened to some polk audio speakers that sounded great. I really don't understand the 5.1 channel and the 7.1 channel. What is the difference. Also was is the best receiver to go with it. I also need to hook up a WII system to it. Any sugestions?
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited November 2009
    5.1 channels mean 2 front speakers + 1 center speaker + 2 surround speakers + 1 subwoofer

    7.1 channels mean 2 front speakers + 1 center speaker + 2 surround speakers + 2 rear speakers + 1 subwoofer

    You select either 5.1 or 7.1 setup depending on the allowance of your listening environment (room size - seating locations - speaker locations) as well as your pocket allowance :D

    About the AVR, you should go with one that supports HDMI input/output and lossless audio. Let the guys know which speakers you are gonna get and they will suggest on which AVR to go with.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited November 2009
    That sums it up pretty much...keep in mind MOST movies are still only 5.1. If you get a 7.1 AVR you can always add speakers down the road, or use the 2nd zone for your deck, balcony or whatever. Welcome to CP!
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

    Allied 395 receiver
    Pioneer CDP PD-M430
    RT8t's & Wharfedale Diamond II's[/SIZE]

    Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music. ~Ronald Reagan
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2009
    If you are playing blu rays most of the newer movies are 7.1 surround. They say that it allows you to have a more in depth audio experience with the movies. Personally I can go with 7.1 but have not yet because I do not have enough cash for the side speakers.
    HT setup
    Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
    Denon DBP-1610
    Monster HTS 1650
    Carver A400X :cool:
    MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
    Kef 104/2
    URC MX-780 Remote
    Sonos Play 1

    Living Room
    63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
    Polk Surroundbar 3000
    Samsung BD-C7900
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited November 2009
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    If you are playing blu rays most of the newer movies are 7.1 surround.

    I don't know about this claim. Mostly I saw 5.1 as the norm.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited November 2009
    Thats what I was thinking.
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

    Allied 395 receiver
    Pioneer CDP PD-M430
    RT8t's & Wharfedale Diamond II's[/SIZE]

    Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music. ~Ronald Reagan
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited November 2009
    Unless your room is big enough, and set up just right, 5.1 might still be the better option.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
    messiah, November 23rd, 2010
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  • pablo_rodz
    pablo_rodz Posts: 331
    edited December 2009
    DMara wrote: »
    I don't know about this claim. Mostly I saw 5.1 as the norm.

    x2
    ;)
    HT:
    Projector - JVC HD100, 100" Fixed Screen, A/V Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH, Power Conditioner - Panamax M5300-EX, BluRay - Sony PS3, (2) ADCOM GFA 555 Bridged, Speakers - LSi 15, LSi C, LSi FX, Sub - 12" M&K VX-1250.

    Living Room:
    Schiit Saga, Parasound HCA-600, OPPO BDP-103D, LSi7
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    I have also seen very limited numbers of movies (Blu-Rays) that are formated in 7.1, Almost all of them are still in 5.1. The switch to 7.1 may come in the future, but probably not for awhile and will happen gradually, IMHO. You can still get a 7.1 AVR and be ready when the time comes, as suggested above. I agree 1000% with Christopher (Messiah) if you don't have the room for a 7.1 setup, you will gain nothing by trying to cram an extra 2 speakers in there, IMHO it would only make it sound worse. A properly setup 5.1 system will sound much better than a cramped up 7.1. Welcome to Club Polk.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • KASR
    KASR Posts: 450
    edited December 2009
    This list may serve to help! :D

    http://price-adjustment.com/BLURAY-audio
    Living room:
    Optoma HD20
    Elite Sable 100"
    Marantz NR1501
    Polk RM6750
    Polk Monitor 50 x 2
    Polk CS1
    2 x Polk PSW110
    2x Sennheiser RS120
    Toshiba HD-A20 x 2
    Vizio VBR220
    Sony CDP-CE375
    Xbox 360 Elite
    --
    Bedroom:
    Olevia 242T
    Sony BDP-S370
    Xbox 360 Pro
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2009
    DMara wrote: »
    I don't know about this claim. Mostly I saw 5.1 as the norm.
    x3 or maybe 4? fact is very few content support 7.1 yet.
    messiah wrote: »
    Unless your room is big enough, and set up just right, 5.1 might still be the better option.
    Some factors to consider...
    wutadumsn23 wrote: »
    I have also seen very limited numbers of movies (Blu-Rays) that are formated in 7.1, Almost all of them are still in 5.1. The switch to 7.1 may come in the future, but probably not for awhile and will happen gradually, IMHO. You can still get a 7.1 AVR and be ready when the time comes, as suggested above. I agree 1000% with Christopher (Messiah) if you don't have the room for a 7.1 setup, you will gain nothing by trying to cram an extra 2 speakers in there, IMHO it would only make it sound worse. A properly setup 5.1 system will sound much better than a cramped up 7.1. Welcome to Club Polk.

    -Jeff
    I agree that if your budget allows you you should be getting the 7.1 to be as future proof as possible with your gear. As far as 5.1 versus 7.1 if room is small as far as I am concerned, this would apply for larger speakers (IE: towers) were placement might be of a problem. I personally believe that when talking about HT (nothing to do with music rig), I feel you are better of with many small speakers than only a few large ones as it fills the room much better thus giving a better feeling of realism. Having more speakers layed out across the room will also allow you to keep the volume lower for the same loudness thus easier in the receiver. This might not be shared by everyone but is simply my own opinion.

    Cheers!
    TK
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2009
    KASR wrote: »
    This list may serve to help! :D

    http://price-adjustment.com/BLURAY-audio
    Neat! Actually there are more than I would have suspected but what do I know, I am still hooked to HD DVD ;)
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  • KASR
    KASR Posts: 450
    edited December 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Neat! Actually there are more than I would have suspected but what do I know, I am still hooked to HD DVD ;)

    I hear ya there, brother! I have plenty of HDDVD's to scoop up before I dive into BR...but that day will come, I know.
    Living room:
    Optoma HD20
    Elite Sable 100"
    Marantz NR1501
    Polk RM6750
    Polk Monitor 50 x 2
    Polk CS1
    2 x Polk PSW110
    2x Sennheiser RS120
    Toshiba HD-A20 x 2
    Vizio VBR220
    Sony CDP-CE375
    Xbox 360 Elite
    --
    Bedroom:
    Olevia 242T
    Sony BDP-S370
    Xbox 360 Pro
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2009
    KASR wrote: »
    I hear ya there, brother! I have plenty of HDDVD's to scoop up before I dive into BR...but that day will come, I know.
    When your BD day comes, maybe you can Karma those HD DVDs down my way to WinterLand :p
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    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • KASR
    KASR Posts: 450
    edited December 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    When your BD day comes, maybe you can Karma those HD DVDs down my way to WinterLand :p

    Oh, I'm planning on keeping the HDDVD collection and player. My reasoning is to scoop up all the glorious HD content for them for pennies!
    Living room:
    Optoma HD20
    Elite Sable 100"
    Marantz NR1501
    Polk RM6750
    Polk Monitor 50 x 2
    Polk CS1
    2 x Polk PSW110
    2x Sennheiser RS120
    Toshiba HD-A20 x 2
    Vizio VBR220
    Sony CDP-CE375
    Xbox 360 Elite
    --
    Bedroom:
    Olevia 242T
    Sony BDP-S370
    Xbox 360 Pro
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2009
    KASR wrote: »
    Oh, I'm planning on keeping the HDDVD collection and player. My reasoning is to scoop up all the glorious HD content for them for pennies!
    Amen to this ;)
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited December 2009
    KASR wrote: »
    Oh, I'm planning on keeping the HDDVD collection and player. My reasoning is to scoop up all the glorious HD content for them for pennies!

    Good idea. HD-DVDs are cheap nowadays.
    polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
    polkaudio 255c-RT Inwalls
    polkaudio DSWPro550WI
    polkaudio XRT12 XM Tuner
    polkaudio RM6750 5.1

    Front projection, 2 channel, car audio... life is good!
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited December 2009
    Serendipity wrote: »
    Good idea. HD-DVDs are cheap nowadays...
    ...when you can find them ;)
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