Onkyo 876 with bridge mode.

anhchungdoan
anhchungdoan Posts: 760
edited December 2009 in Electronics
After having the Onkyo 1007 retunrned to Fry's, I have ordered the Onkyo 876 from J &R with the intention to use the bridge mode for the 2 front channels and also I do not have to buy an extra HD radio component.

I was very please with the 805 few years back. I hope the 876 will be the same or better.

Please give me some feedback to expect.:)
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited November 2009
    Some will say that bridging amps does not bode so well. They say that the base responce is sloppy and that it just does not sound as good.

    IMO the best thing to do is to try it and see if you like the sound. If it does not sound good to you and you want more power to your L/R speakers I would suggest an external amp.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,804
    edited November 2009
    As far as I know, you can't bridge the 876. Are you confusing bridging with the bi-amp feature that is available?
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited November 2009
    The bi-wiring feature on the 876 is entirely different from bridging an amp. You aren't even really driving the speakers with any extra power when you're bi-wiring with an AVR.

    There's really no benefit to be had by it in my experience.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited December 2009
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    As far as I know, you can't bridge the 876. Are you confusing bridging with the bi-amp feature that is available?

    No, William. Onkyo specifies that the 876 can be bridged into 210 WPC for the FL/FR while the newer model Onkyo tx nr 1007 cannot be bridged ( just bi-amping) .
  • NewHTguy
    NewHTguy Posts: 584
    edited December 2009
    You can also bridge with the 875.However, you can only power two speakers if you're bridging and Onkyo does not recommend bridging speakers that are below 8 Ohm:

    "The FRONT L/R and SURR BACK L/R terminal posts
    can be used with front speakers and surround back
    speakers respectively, or bridged together to provide
    almost double the output power for the front speakers.
    • When bridging is used, the AV receiver is able to drive
    2 speakers in the main room (2.1 speakers if you’re
    using a powered subwoofer).
    ...
    Notes:
    • Use only front speakers with an impedance of 8
    ohms or higher for bridging. Failure to do so may
    seriously damage the AV receiver.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited December 2009
    NewHTguy wrote: »
    You can also bridge with the 875.However, you can only power two speakers if you're bridging and Onkyo does not recommend bridging speakers that are below 8 Ohm:

    "The FRONT L/R and SURR BACK L/R terminal posts
    can be used with front speakers and surround back
    speakers respectively, or bridged together to provide
    almost double the output power for the front speakers.
    • When bridging is used, the AV receiver is able to drive
    2 speakers in the main room (2.1 speakers if you’re
    using a powered subwoofer).
    ...
    Notes:
    • Use only front speakers with an impedance of 8
    ohms or higher for bridging. Failure to do so may
    seriously damage the AV receiver.
    "

    Thanks for the info. My speakers are 8 hm and 91db. I do not really need to bridge the Onkyo. Just curious to see how much 210 WPC Onkyo really means. Some guy claims it will drive the Maggies with no sweat (?)
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited December 2009
    Even at 210w so call watts, any good amp would blow it out of the water at 125w.;)

    Just food for thought.

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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited December 2009
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Even at 210w so call watts, any good amp would blow it out of the water at 125w.;)

    Just food for thought.


    +1

    That 210 rating is simply a number. Whether or not it's able to provide lots of clean dynamic power on demand is another question. It's a cool feature, but it seems kind of useless with an AVR to me if you can only use 2 channels.

    You'd likely get a much bigger gain by moving to an external amp of even 100 watts than you would by bridging the 876.

    Just my $.02
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Even at 210w so call watts, any good amp would blow it out of the water at 125w.;)

    Just food for thought.


    +2 I agree 1000%. External amps are the way to go when trying to get the most out of your speakers, the AVR just won't do them justice. Don't sweat it though, that 876 is a beast and I doubt you will be dissapointed. Good luck.


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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited December 2009
    Just buy yourself a decent amp and call it a day.
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  • NewHTguy
    NewHTguy Posts: 584
    edited December 2009
    +1

    It's a cool feature, but it seems kind of useless with an AVR to me if you can only use 2 channels.

    Yeah, that's why I have never tried it. Would be better if you could at least run three channels.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited December 2009
    So...can you "unbridge" the 876 within the menu without swapping wires, and then use all of your channels? Or does the bridging require a connection method similar to AVR bi-wiring that utilizes extra speaker outputs?

    If you don't have to swap wires around to unbridge it...I could see this being a bit more useful.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited December 2009
    Do not want to mix the low-end to the hi-end products. External amp only gives more power to the signal coming from the low-end pre-amp processor. No real improvement there. This is for my second 5.1 H/T to take advantage of the new codes since I will not use the surround back ( L/R), I may as well bridge the onkyo with the spare channels.

    Two channel audio is another story. Thank you for the inputs.
  • NewHTguy
    NewHTguy Posts: 584
    edited December 2009
    So...can you "unbridge" the 876 within the menu without swapping wires, and then use all of your channels? Or does the bridging require a connection method similar to AVR bi-wiring that utilizes extra speaker outputs?

    If you don't have to swap wires around to unbridge it...I could see this being a bit more useful.

    You have to swap the wires, unfortunately.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited December 2009
    NewHTguy wrote: »
    You have to swap the wires, unfortunately.

    It's quite simple ( positive F/R and positive SB on the Onkyo to
    positive speaker binding post .Negative F/L and negative SB on the Onkyo to negative speaker binding post. I could not turn the volume up above -20 on the master volume, so right now bridging is not needed.

    I received my 876 this morning after returning the 1007 to Fry's. I cannot use 9.2 in my little 14X16 room, so the 876 is the better option plus HD radio.

    The Onkyo 606 Bluray player did a better job playing Standard DVD than the Denon BDP 2500 btci by far.