Cable Elevators

inspiredsports
inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
The newest Mobile Fidelity catalog arrived yesterday and I'm perusing it between eating massive amounts of food, watching football and visiting with friends, family and my 4 kids boyfriends/girlfriend.

At one point the conversation turned to, "So Dad, what's on your Christmas list" and the Precision Audio Products Cable Elevators + at $20 each came to mind.

Does anyone out there use PAP (or other) band cable elevators?
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2009
    Shoot jerryj12 a pm,, he builds his own.Pretty cool too.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    I was given some by Frank @ Signal Cable. I don't believe they change anything sonically but rather than stick them in a box, I use them. It makes vaccuming around my cables easier.....
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  • sk1939
    sk1939 Posts: 295
    edited November 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I was given some by Frank @ Signal Cable. I don't believe they change anything sonically but rather than stick them in a box, I use them. It makes vaccuming around my cables easier.....

    I agree, I don't think they really do anything except keep your cables off the floor and perhaps cleaner.
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  • sTiLlLeArNiNg
    sTiLlLeArNiNg Posts: 805
    edited November 2009
    I think it really depend's on what type of flooring your wire's are laying on ;) If you have carpet or something that can transmit static electricity i think they could be beneficial, i would however make my own instead of paying out the nose for someone else to make 'em ;)

    Just my $0.02 of course :o
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited November 2009
    Good points. I guess I will do what I always do:

    -- Gather varied opinions
    -- Learn what gear is available
    -- Buy (or make) the best I can afford
    -- Get my ears on it for a hundred hours or so
    -- Make a decision for myself
    -- Share my findings
    -- Keep the gear if I like it
    -- Sell or karma the gear if I decide it's not right for me
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited November 2009
    I'd pass on the cable elevators myself. I don't buy into that whole theory.

    To each their own though.
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  • jerryj12
    jerryj12 Posts: 451
    edited December 2009
  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,858
    edited December 2009
    I have used the old glass power pole insulators with the mickey mouse ear tops...can find them for a few bucks each at thrift stores....all in all my old tired ears hear no difference
  • MLZ
    MLZ Posts: 214
    edited December 2009
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    I have used the old glass power pole insulators with the mickey mouse ear tops...can find them for a few bucks each at thrift stores....all in all my old tired ears hear no difference

    Yeah - I alweays thought it might be cool to assemble a collection of vintage glass insulators off eBay and use them as speaker cable elevators which would be at least pretty interesting conservation pieces :cool:
  • rsan1
    rsan1 Posts: 5
    edited January 2010
    Check out there cable elevators! www.rhythmicraft.com
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    rsan1 wrote: »
    Check out there cable elevators! www.rhythmicraft.com

    At $15 each they are a bit more affordable than the ceramic models.

    They look like a bridge, and I'm sure must invite "I've got a bridge to sell you . . . " comments. :D
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    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
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    GIK panels
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    It looks like they would do better holding someones smoke.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2010
    Why do I feel we'll never see rsan1 again???? Hmmmm....
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Why do I feel we'll never see rsan1 again???? Hmmmm....

    Gavin from MIT had to have made a post #1 here at CP at some point in time. :D
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    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2010
    It's got little to do with banning IS, and he won't be, at least Gavin asked ahead of time. It's just an observation based on years of watching things happen.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    I was being a little sarcastic and actually agree with you.

    The dude probably works for that company and was doing search engine research to find where his target audience gathers.

    On one hand it seems shady, but on the other I did not know of this design and I am moderately interested to learn as much as possible about both the original ceramic versions and other competing materials.

    I emailed them for a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) to learn if they are made out of fresh urethane resin, our out of my old boot soles and discarded milk cartons from the landfill. :eek:
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2010
    Sometimes its just fun to let that stuff ride....see what happens.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Sometimes its just fun to let that stuff ride....see what happens.

    Yep. He did even figure how to nicely pack the title with keywords describing the item for search engine retrieval.

    It's just too bad he wasn't intelligent enough to use the right form of "their" in the body of his post. :)
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    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • rsan1
    rsan1 Posts: 5
    edited January 2010
    I was being a little sarcastic and actually agree with you.

    The dude probably works for that company and was doing search engine research to find where his target audience gathers.

    On one hand it seems shady, but on the other I did not know of this design and I am moderately interested to learn as much as possible about both the original ceramic versions and other competing materials.

    I emailed them for a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) to learn if they are made out of fresh urethane resin, our out of my old boot soles and discarded milk cartons from the landfill. :eek:

    Cute... I find that trash from Ohio is particularly suitable for recycling. I am the dude that works for the company and just wanted to get the product out their ;)

    Have fun gentlemen.
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    rsan1 wrote: »
    Cute... I find that trash from Ohio is particularly suitable for recycling. I am the dude that works for the company and just wanted to get the product out their ;)

    Have fun gentlemen.

    We have a "Recycle Energy" facility close by that was instrumental in inventing the "Trex" lumber substitute now used to replace treated wood for decks, picnic tables. etc. The polymer industry here with its roots dating back to the heyday of the original Big 3 rubber companies is still relatively active.

    I was not being facetious about the desire to see the MSDS. Is your product made from recycled materials or not?

    P.S.: . . . out "there" ("their" showing "possession" and "there" showing "position").
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • rsan1
    rsan1 Posts: 5
    edited January 2010
    We have a "Recycle Energy" facility close by that was instrumental in inventing the "Trex" lumber substitute now used to replace treated wood for decks, picnic tables. etc. The polymer industry here with its roots dating back to the heyday of the original Big 3 rubber companies is still relatively active.

    So your product is recycled material or not?

    I sent you the MSDS per your request and I did not mislead you. Did you check it out?

    The product is made from a product called Smooth-Cast ONYX made by Smooth-On. It is not recycled material, I was being facetious.

    I'm aware of the Trex lumber, have installed it several times. Great product in my opinion.

    Thanks for the vocab lesson, I assume you've not made any typos in any of your posts.

    Seriously though, not looking to make enemies here or offend anyone. I will stay away from these parts.

    Kevin

    P.S. I am an avid mountain biker though and will check out your products, maybe you'll be getting some of my business in the near future when things warm up a bit.
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    rsan1 wrote: »
    I sent you the MSDS per your request and I did not mislead you. Did you check it out?

    The product is made from a product called Smooth-Cast ONYX made by Smooth-On. It is not recycled material, I was being facetious.

    I'm aware of the Trex lumber, have installed it several times. Great product in my opinion.

    Thanks for the vocab lesson, I assume you've not made any typos in any of your posts.

    Seriously though, not looking to make enemies here or offend anyone. I will stay away from these parts.

    Kevin

    P.S. I am an avid mountain biker though and will check out your products, maybe you'll be getting some of my business in the near future when things warm up a bit.

    I'm not a moderator, but the forum gets so much spam that I typically tend to put a pretty good shot across the bow to see what happens when the intent of a 1st post is so obvious. I have some fairly decent gear and am trying to figure out if elevators will actually help sound quality, or just look really cool to party guests.

    I did start this thread to learn as much as I can about cable elevators because I've found Club Polk members to have a depth of audio related knowledge that is deeper than anywhere else I've found on the internet.

    Sounds like welcome aboard is more in order. Stick around if you have any Polk or other audio related questions and you'll have your audio master's degree before you know it. :)

    Greg


    P.S.: I just found the MSDS email and am quite impressed that you responded so quickly and professionally. I'm also happy to see the compound is manufactured in PA.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • rsan1
    rsan1 Posts: 5
    edited January 2010
    I'm not a moderator, but the forum gets so much spam that I typically tend to put a pretty good shot across the bow to see what happens when the intent of a 1st post is so obvious. I have some fairly decent gear and am trying to figure out if elevators will actually help sound quality, or just look really cool to party guests.

    I did start this thread to learn as much as I can about cable elevators because I've found Club Polk members to have a depth of audio related knowledge that is deeper than anywhere else I've found on the internet.

    Sounds like welcome aboard is more in order. Stick around if you have any Polk or other audio related questions and you'll have your audio master's degree before you know it. :)

    Well thanks for the warm welcome!

    Tell you what, if your interested I will send you a set to try out in your system. Take all the time you need. If you like them then we can talk about a purchase, if not then just send them back.

    Can always use a good testimonial, provided you like them.

    I have been into high end audio for years and like to tweek. I built a makeshift set of elevators last year and felt that I noticed a difference in my system. They are a controversial product, cable lifts or elevators, but some really believe in them. Like myself. I decided to create my own design and here I am, trying to create some buzz. I've been working on some speakers with the guys over at the Frugal-Horn Website, in a few months I will have some for sale on RhythmiCraft.com as well.
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    rsan1 wrote: »
    Well thanks for the warm welcome!

    Tell you what, if your interested I will send you a set to try out in your system. Take all the time you need. If you like them then we can talk about a purchase, if not then just send them back.

    Can always use a good testimonial, provided you like them.

    I have been into high end audio for years and like to tweek. I built a makeshift set of elevators last year and felt that I noticed a difference in my system. They are a controversial product, cable lifts or elevators, but some really believe in them. Like myself. I decided to create my own design and here I am, trying to create some buzz. I've been working on some speakers with the guys over at the Frugal-Horn Website, in a few months I will have some for sale on RhythmiCraft.com as well.

    On your speaker page I noticed the reference to 6moons.com but wasn't quite sure what it was all about.

    Concerning the arches, are they made here in the US?
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • rsan1
    rsan1 Posts: 5
    edited January 2010
    On your speaker page I noticed the reference to 6moons.com but wasn't quite sure what it was all about.

    Concerning the arches, are they made here in the US?

    The 6moons.com website publisher Srajan Ebaan was nice enough to mention the Cable Arches in his news section.

    The arches are made right here in Northern Virginia!

    I sent you a reply email btw.