***Rock and Roll Reminiscing-MMM***

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  • joe6pak
    joe6pak Posts: 267
    edited April 2003
    F1nut.

    He probably won't review Manilow. I'm still waiting for his Julio Iglesias review.

    joe
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2003
    I'm Still working on Burl Ives.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited April 2003
    Man, I can't believe I didn't mention this earlier but Mad Season - Above is one of my absolute all time favorites and one of the best albums of 90s. I think those who know who I'm talking about would agree.

    They were a colaboration of Alice in Chains singer Layne Staley, Pearl Jam guitarist Mike McCready, Barrett Martin drummer from Screaming Trees and also featured Marc Lanegan singer from Screaming Trees.

    The album is pretty hipnotic and dark. If I were to recommend any album, this one is top 5 in my books hands down.

    Derick.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2003
    Originally posted by joe6pak
    F1nut.

    Shack took away your home run and then credits himself with a sac fly to drive you in. Looks like a blatant attempt to pad his own stats. He should have to write the Manilow review for doing that.

    joe

    Ok...You asked for it...So you will get it...Coming tonight...


    BARRY MANILOW - LIVE - 1977 - DOUBLE VINYL

    I'll go home tonight and give it a spin and report back. I guess I'll have to put Burl on the back burner...

    This will probably be like a sacrifice bunt with no one on base....
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2003
    In the meantime...

    Meatloaf - Bat Out Of Hell - 1977 - It seems there are only two camps on this one - you either love it or hate it...I am in the former camp. Produced by Todd Rundgren (who played on the album also) and written by Jim Steinman this is overblown, exaggerated, grandiose rock by design, that is not meant to be taken too seriously...and I think it works...for this ONE album. Each track is interesting in its own way, but there is one that stands out more that any other...just because it is so unique..."Paradise By The Dashboard Light". I really like this song, the way it ebbs and flows...and then the ending...


    "I swore that I would love you to the end of time!"

    "So now I'm praying for the end of time - To hurry up and arrive "

    IMO this is a must have CD. Nothing by Meatloaf since is worth mentioning.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2003
    Be careful what you ask for.....

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    As promised, I listened to this entire album tonight ( a double LP album). I guess if you are a real Barry Manilow FAN this would be a must have album. I have this one on vinyl and it seems that when Arista issued a CD they left out several tracks from this album so they could fit it all on one disc. I'll admit that being in my late teens and early 20s during the 70s It was hard not to be exposed to Manilow's music. I haven't really listened to any of his music in years but I did like some of his work at the time. Having said that I have mixed feelings about this album. Some of it I like and some just doesn't sound right. The interesting part is that what I don't like about this album are the songs I liked back then..."Mandy", "Could It Be Magic", "I Write The Songs" and "Looks Like We Made It". These tracks for the most part were near the end of the concert. He seemed to slow down the tempo to make them more "dramatic" (for lack of a better word) and they lost some of the feel that the studio versions had. It's sort of like he was practicing for his soon to be Las Vegas career. The one exception is "It's A Miracle" which was very upbeat and truer to the studio version. I think the mixing engineer may have had something to do with this as you don't always seem to get the full spectrum of sound that you know is there. Sometime the background orchestra seems too weak and sometimes it is the band missing.

    Side 2 was an intersting side. It starts off with "Very Strange Medley"....Six min. of a medley of his commercial jingles from Burger King, State Farm, Pepsi, Stridex, Dr. Pepper, McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and Band-Aids. Interesting to listen to.

    The next cut is the best of the entire album..."Jump Shout Boogie Medley" an eight min. medley which included Jump Shout Boogie/Avenue C/Jumpin' at the Woo, and ended up with the theme form American Bandstand "Bandstand Boogie". This is a high energy be-bop, boogie, big band, R&R sound and was very good.

    Ok...this was an interesting way to spend and evening...Listening to a Live Barry Manilow concert on the old TT. Am I a Barry Manilow FAN now? Not really... but if I see a cheap Barry CD at the used CD store with the studio versions of the songs I liked back then...I just might buy it.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,647
    edited April 2003
    I'm speechless!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Frank Z
    Frank Z Posts: 5,860
    edited April 2003
    Originally posted by joe6pak


    Roger Miller.

    Country pop. Who can forget his 1964 hits, Dang Me, Chug-a-lug, (my fav), and Do-Wacka-Do. Also his 1965 hits England Swings and (the big one) KING OF THE ROAD. He knew how to write a catchy tune. He passed away in 1992 with throat cancer. Anybody have any Roger Miller?


    I do!! I've got "The Return of Roger Miller" on vinyl!! My kids love it!
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  • joe6pak
    joe6pak Posts: 267
    edited April 2003
    shack.

    Great review of Manilow. I'm sorry I doubted you. You have really inspired me. If I wasn't so tired I think I would head out to Wal-mart right now and buy every Manilow cd they have. I can't wait for your Burl Ives review. If that was a sac bunt with nobody on, then it turned into a inside the park homer.

    joe
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  • joe6pak
    joe6pak Posts: 267
    edited April 2003
    Frank Z.

    Its good to see that others can appreciate fine music. Ol Roger was pretty cool.

    Ray Manzarek

    Key board player for the Doors. This guy was a big influence on keyboarders for years. After the Doors split up he made a few albums on his own. "The Golden Scarab" which was o.k. but not a keeper. His second solo was pretty good. I have it on vinyl. "The Whole Thing Started With Rock & Roll Now It's Out Of Control." Long title. As you can imagine, this is pretty strange stuff. Anyone under the age of 18 needs to quit reading now. Adults only. He even had a porno song on here. The last song of this album is titled "Perfumed Garden." It has very graphic lyrics describing oral sex. Topped off with a bunch of moaning and groaning. You would not find stuff like this on a Manilow album.

    Speaking of the Doors:

    Jim Morrison. Another wasted life. Damn. He had it all. Looks, talent, fame, money.......

    joe
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  • joe6pak
    joe6pak Posts: 267
    edited April 2003
    Hello. Is anyone out there?

    Manfred Mann.

    Was he mentioned yet? He has been around forever. In 1964 he had a #1 hit Do Wah Diddy Diddy. In !969 a cover of a unreleased Dylan song, Mighty Quinn made #10, and in 1976 another #1, Blinded By The Light, written by Springsteen. His bands through the years have been named Manfred Mann, Manfred Mann Chapter 3, Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Manfred Mann's New Earth Band, and some others that I can't think of right now. I'll stop here and let someone else wrap up this Manfred review.

    joe
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2003
    Originally posted by joe6pak
    Of course there would be hell to pay when the Supreme Creator (tour) gets back. No telling what kind of evil graphics he would hit us with. joe
    I heard that!!!!

    Great stuff here, so you all are forgiven for your futile insurrection.... at least you didn't tear down my statue...:)

    Dave Mason's Alone Together is another of the 20 (or so) recordings in Tour's top 10 list, and is of course, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. I never thought he came close to equaling that effort. Hell, it's line-up is most of any greatest hits issue you can find. I saw him with Jim Calpaldi a couple years ago and the voice was still there.

    But WTH guys, where was Mott the Hoople? The Bowie produced All the Young Dudes was a great listen.

    More later, but I gotta post the next letter and hit the hay...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
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  • jgido759
    jgido759 Posts: 572
    edited April 2003
    Tour,

    Back on 4-9 abmarsh mention Mott the Hoople & "All The Young Dudes". I personally liked their follow-up albums "Mott" which produced "All The Way From Memphis", "The Ballad of Mott The Hoople", & "Drivin' Sister" and "The Hoople", which had "The Golden Age Of Rock And Roll" & "Roll Away The Stone".
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    group for that. It's called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.
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  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited April 2003
    I cannot believe there are no MOTLEY CRUE fans here.....lets see that review....(I'm to tired to do it now.)
    Sean
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2003
    There are several MMMM which didn't get any mention here...some that should and some that should not.

    I'm not going to do any long reveiws...I'm still recovering from Barry Manilow...but here are a few that I am familiar with that are some good music and that someone else might want to chime in on.

    - Matchbox 20 - Yourself or Someone Like You - 1996 and Mad Season - 2000

    - Eddie Money - Eddie Money -1977

    - John (NOT COUGAR) Mellencamp - American Fool - 1982, Uh-Huh -1983 and Scarecrow -1985

    - Van Morrison - Moondance - 1970 and Tupelo Honey -1971

    - John Mayall and The Blues Breakers - Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton - 1966

    Some Questionable ones.

    - Mister Mister

    - Mike and the Mechanics

    - Madonna ???? (I guess if MJ can be included in the JJJJs so can she)

    Should NEVER be mentioned together with music -

    Marilyn Manson - the only thing he/she has ever DONE worth mentioning is Rose McGowen (What a waste/shame!!!)
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2003
    OK, just reread the whole thread and yup, I did miss the mention of Mott's ATYD's. How could I have missed the whole one line dedicated to a great album? :rolleyes:

    The outta left field one for me in dc's Mad Season. Think I'll give it a try. Also need F1 or Joe to catch me up on this Lonnie they're talking about. I must have missed the intial reference somewhere along the line.

    So much other great stuff y'all listed that I'd love to comment on, (Morrison, Mayall, Miller, etc…. maybe later), but instead for now I’ll add one that did slip by, that should not have.

    One of the best concerts I ever saw was in the summer of '71 in the Akron Rubber Bowl. It opened with the Eagles and closed with Yes both of whom were great. However, at the time I did not have a clue what to make of the group that came in between. I’ve since learned the error of my ways and came to appreciate…

    The Mahavishnu Orchestra
    The Inner Mounting Flame – CD (1971 Columbia – CK 31067)
    Birds of Fire – CD (1972 Columbia – CK 31996)
    These are two of the three albums by the group’s original line-up, which consisted of:
    John McLaughlin (guitar), Jerry Goodman (violin), Jan Hammer (keyboards), Rick Laird (bass), and Billy Cobham (drums). Each member was a virtuoso performer in their own right and collective they were amazing.

    McLaughlin founded the group (many refer to it as “John McLaughlin’s…” or “John McLaughlin and The…”) and while it was considered by most to be “rock”, John’s roots were definitely in Jazz. He appeared on Miles Davis’ “In a Silent Way” and “**** Brew” prior to forming TMO. AMG describes TMO as a Jazz-Rock fusion group, and if you have to categorize groups, it’s as good a place as any for them.

    Billy Cobham is the other name you’re most likely to know here. Billy’s roots were also in jazz and included stints with Miles and others, including Mose Allison. After leaving TMO Billy released several albums under his name, the first and most well known of which is Spectrum (a very good Jazz-Funk listen).

    The other members are likely less familiar as what solo work they did is both more limited and more obscure, but all worked with numerous other “names” in rock and jazz before and after TMO.

    I wish I could recommend one of these two CD’s over the other for you to sample, but I can’t. So just flip a coin, take the plunge and cuss me out at the first listening. But then go back for seconds and odds are you’ll be seeking out the other CD. TMO is an acquired taste, but one worth acquiring.
    More later,
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    Vox Copuli
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    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2003
    Well...I just realized that I left off another great ***MMMM*** (you know...there are a lot of nice artists in the ***MMMM*** category!).

    I was at my parent house on Easter Sunday flipping through some of my dad's Dixieland Jazz LPs and found several of my albums I had taken up there to listen to some time ago and left. (He had my TT which I have now taken back since he can no longer operate it due to alzheimer's - I've been putting a lot of his music on tape since it is easier to listen to). In the stack was:

    Buddy Miles - Live with Carlos Santana - 1972 - I had planned on mentioning him earlier but forgot when the time came. Buddy was a great Blues/Rock/Funk drummer that played in Jimi Hendrix's Band of Gypsies. He was also in a really famous band which I will mention a little later. Anyway he also played a little with Carlos Santana and they made a live album together that is really good music. Santana usually gets the top billing on this album...which is too bad since this is mostly about Miles...His singing...his arranging...his songs.

    Side 1 starts of with a great cut of "Marbles" followed by "Lava" and then goes into an interesting version of "Evil Ways". The horn section really adds to Santana's song. "Faith Interlude" leads into the star of the album "Them Changes". If you have never heard this song...find it...and give it a listen...It is blues funk rock at its best and Miles' voice was made for this one.

    Side 2 is 25 min. of "Free Form Funkafide Filth" which is a nice jam session that is lacking only because of the quality of the recording. The quality and intensity of the music is there but the recording is poor. The LP has come out as a CD but I don't think it was remastered, which it definitely needs. This is a really fine live album and I highly recommend it.

    I had another Buddy Miles LP but I cannot locate it.. Them Changes - 1970 - with the studio version of the title song. Also on the album are covers of Greg Allman's "Dreams" and Neil Young's "Down By The River". I can't find this one anywhere...I think my sister may have given it to one of her no good boyfriends years ago. (She of course denies it). This is too bad because this was also a great album that is no longer in print and has never been put on CD. I have been able to download MP3 copies but I want the album!

    Well Buddy Miles had a really famous gig...even though he played with Hendrix, Santana, Muddy Waters, Otis Redding and yes...even the Monkees...it was bigger! You have probably heard him many, many times as....The lead singer for....The California Rasins, singing "I Heard It Through The Grapevine". I bet he made more money doing that than all of his previous work combined. You gotta love the power of advertising and TV!
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited April 2003
    The outta left field one for me in dc's Mad Season.

    If you like Layne Staley, you'll definitely like Mad Season. Nice to see I've peaked your curiousity. ;)

    Derick.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2003
    Derrick,
    More like I don't know Layne or Mad Season at all.
    Just willing to take a flyer on a fellow RnR contributor's top five listing.:)
    More later,
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    Vox Copuli
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    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited April 2003
    Cool. :cool:
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited April 2003
    You'll have to let me know what you think.
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