What Denon have pre outs?

buymesome

What Denon have pre outs and hdmi ?

Is there any receivers out there that have hdmi and balanced pre outs ?

cnh

Denons AVRS starting the AVR 887/2307 and higher models had pres....the 888/2308 removed that.

So that only the AVR 2808/9 988/989 and above had pre-outs those years...

Now Denon has redefined their numbers so that only the 3310/990 series and above have pres...and no 2xxx level series has any.

All AVRs mentioned above have at least 1.1 HDMI or higher..



cnh

Bernal

I prefer Denon "4000 series"

cnh

Bernal wrote: »

I prefer Denon "4000 series"

Hi Bernal...

Can't disagree with that...I do mention that all Higher Models have pre-outs...however the new 4310 is not quite as powerful as your older 4308? You now have to move up to the 4810 in order to equal your unit...and it's about 500 dollars more?

In essence the 3310 takes up where the 2809 left off, the 4310 becomes the new 3809 and the 4810 the new 4308. In the process each amp has become quite a bit more expensive?

Once you get to the 3000 series you've pretty much heard the Denon Signature sound...the 4000 and 5000 series just add features and more power but I, personally, don't think the basic sound quality changes much--in other words you can tell they're Denons and not something else.

Even my lowly 2807 sounds a lot like a 3000 series...when all is said and done..

cnh

Bernal

Hi,
Ok.
Just showing my preference.

buymesome

Bernal wrote: »

I prefer Denon "4000 series"

Why the 4000 ? Would the 3000 be just as good with the right amp?

buymesome

Intresting, I find the Denon 3310 available for less $$$ than the 990

Is there a difference in these two models

Bernal

buymesome wrote: »

Why the 4000 ? Would the 3000 be just as good with the right amp?

Processor(s): – Bit Depth and Type
4810Ci: 21367 x 3 32-bit Floating Point
4308Ci: 2 - 21366 x 1 and 21367 x 1 32-bit Floating Point
3310CI: 21367 x 1 32-bit Floating Point

24-bit/192-kHz DACs – Burr-Brown PCM-1791
4308CI: PCM-1791A - 12 channels
4308CI: PCM-1791A - 2 x 8 channels
3310CI: –

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Analog-to-Digital Conversion - Bit Depth/Sampling Rate
4810CI: 24-bit/96-kHz Burr-Brown PCM-1804
4308CI: 24-bit/192kHz Burr-Brown PCM-1804
3310CI: 24-bit/96-kHz Burr-Brown PCM-1803

PhantomOG

buymesome wrote: »

Intresting, I find the Denon 3310 available for less $$$ than the 990

Is there a difference in these two models

AVR 990 and 3310CI are identical other than:

1. 3310CI has 3-source/3-zone (instead of 2-S/2-Z)
2. 3310CI gets the second remote


The 3310 should be the more expensive one. If its cheaper go for it.

I picked up a 989 a couple months ago from Amazon and love it. Especially since it was only $550.

buymesome

Bernal wrote: »

Processor(s): – Bit Depth and Type
4810Ci: 21367 x 3 32-bit Floating Point
4308Ci: 2 - 21366 x 1 and 21367 x 1 32-bit Floating Point
3310CI: 21367 x 1 32-bit Floating Point

24-bit/192-kHz DACs – Burr-Brown PCM-1791
4308CI: PCM-1791A - 12 channels
4308CI: PCM-1791A - 2 x 8 channels
3310CI: –

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Analog-to-Digital Conversion - Bit Depth/Sampling Rate
4810CI: 24-bit/96-kHz Burr-Brown PCM-1804
4308CI: 24-bit/192kHz Burr-Brown PCM-1804
3310CI: 24-bit/96-kHz Burr-Brown PCM-1803

How does this translate into sound ?
Would the 4308 be the best for music because it has 24/192 bb's

Is the 3310 the weakest ?

Whats good for movies like bluray audio ?

Bernal

buymesome wrote: »

How does this translate into sound ?
Would the 4308 be the best for music because it has 24/192 bb's

Is the 3310 the weakest ?

Whats good for movies like bluray audio ?

I prefer Denon AVR 4308Ci

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zulu-walker

I do not have pre-outs for my main, this drives me nuts since my buddy has a much cheaper (other brand) reciever which lets him.

Seems short sighted to limit me to getting rid of fairly good reciever rather than just adding more power...that's hard to swallow.

bigred7078

zulu-walker wrote: »

I do not have pre-outs for my main, this drives me nuts since my buddy has a much cheaper (other brand) reciever which lets him.

Seems short sighted to limit me to getting rid of fairly good reciever rather than just adding more power...that's hard to swallow.

i feel ya. Unfortunately with Denon, thats the way the cookie crumbles.

buymesome

I feel the same way about the 607 guys

cnh

The 607 (600) series has always been Onkyo's Everyman AVR..I think their reasoning is that most people who buy it don't even know what a pre is..they're just buying a decent 500 dollar receiver...So they've always kept the Pre-outs for the higher THX select model the 700 series.....Now I'm not defending that strategy but as far as I know, at least Onkyo has been consistent about it. I've owned both a 604 and a 605 and have a friend who has the 603...the 600s have never had pre-s....the 700s always have.

As for Denon I think they're making a mistake with these newer models...should keep an 'entry' level pre-out model....look at Harman Kardon...most of their AVRs have pre-s except for maybe the very cheapest in the series?

cnh