so far so good

ntculenuff
ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
edited November 2009 in The Clubhouse
well after months of aggravating HDMI issues with my new TV i think i may have stumbled across the right process for minimal frustrations.

so the handshake between my oppo and mits were erratic dropping out every other day or so and having to reset the TV to sync back up after a trip to service center and no problems (with what seems to be cheap bd players) i have found that this combination works.
1) give the oppo limited cec control in the hdmi setup
2) turn my TV on to watch directv
3) (after directv is up and running) turn on oppo, with the limited control it than talks to the mits and changes it to the correct input.

so for the last few days doing it this way i have not had to reset my TV to see the oppo. so knock on wood and pray to the electronic gods. this i can live with lol :D
Speakers:
Definitive BP7001sc mains
Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
Polk RT800i's rears
Definitive supercube I Sub
Audio:
Onkyo TX-NR3010
Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
Video:
Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
Directv x's 2
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  • woodsman10b
    woodsman10b Posts: 408
    edited November 2009
    sounds like a pain in the ****:(
    Most of them only hear how loud it sounds, and the rest of us hear everything else - :rolleyes:
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    Have you posted over at AVS in BDP-83 owners thread or contacted Oppo about this problem? Other owners with the same problem may really appreciate it. This might be fixable in firmware.
    That said, HDMI handshake issues are a huge PITA. I'm glad you found the magic combo that works for you. I have been very lucky so far.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2009
    So if you are married have you explained this to your wife yet?
    HT setup
    Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
    Denon DBP-1610
    Monster HTS 1650
    Carver A400X :cool:
    MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
    Kef 104/2
    URC MX-780 Remote
    Sonos Play 1

    Living Room
    63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
    Polk Surroundbar 3000
    Samsung BD-C7900
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2009
    I'd much rather deal with the old fashioned but reliable lots of wires to everything, but get everything I need without all the BS of HDMI!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited November 2009
    Sorry to hear your issues.

    If I were you I would get rid of the HDMI and go with component or DVI and digital coax cables. Yes I have a few more cables behind my rack of equipment but I have no issues with my stuff not talking to each other.

    I am glad I never hopped on board the HDMI train wreck!
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    When HDMI works, it's a beautiful thing. Operative word is "when". I have had exactly zero problems. But I feel for those that do.

    Just for information purposes, the BDP-83 must to be hooked up via HDMI in order to take advantage of the ABT VRS processing. "If" you are hooked up via component... no upscaling/deinterlacing. So there are compelling reasons to use HDMI for video output at least. You can disable HDMI audio and use the player to decode HiRes audio.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited November 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    When HDMI works, it's a beautiful thing. Operative word is "when". I have had exactly zero problems. But I feel for those that do.

    Just for information purposes, the BDP-83 must to be hooked up via HDMI in order to take advantage of the ABT VRS processing. "If" you are hooked up via component... no upscaling/deinterlacing. So there are compelling reasons to use HDMI for video output at least. You can disable HDMI audio and use the player to decode HiRes audio.

    Did not know that about the OPPO. I did have the OPPO on my list of BR players that I might end up buying but that might just knock them off the list.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,771
    edited November 2009
    thuffman03 wrote: »
    Did not know that about the OPPO. I did have the OPPO on my list of BR players that I might end up buying but that might just knock them off the list.

    Better knock all the other brands off as well. Their processing won't do 1080p over component either. It's not allowed due to HDCP.

    Or you could just try HDMI, I've never had a single issue with it, using at least 6 different players and three different processors. Although the Onkyo 885 did switch HDMI in slow motion.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    thuffman03 wrote: »
    Did not know that about the OPPO. I did have the OPPO on my list of BR players that I might end up buying but that might just knock them off the list.

    Here is the FAQ info

    Be sure to do your research. You may be surprised at the price you'll pay for the same level of video processing (SOTA) in another player. Also, 1080i (interlaced) is all you'll ever get out of a component connection.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    Doh!:rolleyes:


    You may want to note that only non-encrypted SD DVD's can be scaled via component as well. Easily overcome with some rip/burn but a PITA nonetheless.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2009
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    So if you are married have you explained this to your wife yet?

    yeah she is on board thank you harmony makes this much easier :)
    Speakers:
    Definitive BP7001sc mains
    Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
    Polk RT800i's rears
    Definitive supercube I Sub
    Audio:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010
    Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    When HDMI works, it's a beautiful thing.
    ain't that the truth.. during my trouble shooting i did hook everything back up with component and i contemplated going back to component but when you see the hdmi pic it is so nice.

    good idea about contacting oppo for firmware didn't even think about that possibility couldn't hurt
    Speakers:
    Definitive BP7001sc mains
    Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
    Polk RT800i's rears
    Definitive supercube I Sub
    Audio:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010
    Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2009
    Just sent an email to oppo so we'll see what they have to say. all in all i love the player and tv and like i said i can deal with an extra button to push to keep it working :)
    Speakers:
    Definitive BP7001sc mains
    Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
    Polk RT800i's rears
    Definitive supercube I Sub
    Audio:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010
    Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2009
    ntculenuff wrote: »
    yeah she is on board thank you harmony makes this much easier :)

    LOL good deal.
    HT setup
    Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ80U
    Denon DBP-1610
    Monster HTS 1650
    Carver A400X :cool:
    MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
    Kef 104/2
    URC MX-780 Remote
    Sonos Play 1

    Living Room
    63 inch Samsung PN63C800YF
    Polk Surroundbar 3000
    Samsung BD-C7900
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    ntculenuff wrote: »
    Just sent an email to oppo so we'll see what they have to say. all in all i love the player and tv and like i said i can deal with an extra button to push to keep it working :)

    Thanks. They have been actively chasing down handshake issues and seem to have most of them quashed. Have you updated the player firmware since you got it?

    Here is the oppo support page with firmware links and instructions
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2009
    oppo got back with me and gave me a great explanation on hdmi hand shaking. explaining that it works best when the TV is on first basically what i am doing but without getting a handshake from the TV first. they said they would work on it in there facility and see if they can replicate. what a great company. when i get back on my main PC i will post the email that was sent to me
    Speakers:
    Definitive BP7001sc mains
    Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
    Polk RT800i's rears
    Definitive supercube I Sub
    Audio:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010
    Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2009
    this is the response from oppo:
    Generally, with these kind of HDCP handshaking errors, turning on the television, changing inputs to the one the player is assigned to, then turning on the player should resolve a proper HDCP handshake. We have not seen a scenario where a HDCP hanshake has to be first established by another device before it works with the BDP-83.

    Ensure that your BDP-83 is using the 40-0925 Firmware, as this firmware was designed to improve HDCP and other HDMI handshakes.

    We will attempt to replicate your issues in house and see what we can't do to improve the performance with a future firmware release.

    Best Regards,

    Customer Service
    OPPO Digital, Inc.
    2629B Terminal Blvd.
    Mountain View, CA 94043
    Service@oppodigital.com
    Tel: 650-961-1118
    Fax: 650-961-1119

    so this is basically what I'm doing i just use the directv activity button on my harmony to bring it all up first
    Speakers:
    Definitive BP7001sc mains
    Definitive C/L/R 3000 center
    Polk RT800i's rears
    Definitive supercube I Sub
    Audio:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010
    Emotiva XPA five Gen 3
    OPPO BDP-103 CD, SACD, DVD-A
    Video:
    Panasonic TC-P65ZT60
    OPPO BDP-103 Bluray
    Directv x's 2
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited November 2009
    Oppo service is first rate.
    My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    Thanks for the follow up ntculenuff.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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