Do I need to upgrade my sub?

binarycool
binarycool Posts: 51
edited November 2009 in Speakers
Thanks to all of your help this is my new setup:

TSi500 fronts
TSi200 surround
CS2 Center (although i think i am going to get the CS20 because I am anal about things matching - if anyone wants to take this off my hands I'll be posting it in the for sale forum soon)
Pioneer Elite VSX-21

The only thing that is not new now is a leftover sub from my RM6600 the PSW350. Would upgrading to the TSi line sub make a difference? And although I love everything to match my sub can't really be seen where it is. So only musically speaking, would it make a difference.

Thanks AGAIN!
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited November 2009
    binarycool wrote: »
    Thanks to all of your help this is my new setup:

    TSi500 fronts
    TSi200 surround
    CS2 Center (although i think i am going to get the CS20 because I am anal about things matching - if anyone wants to take this off my hands I'll be posting it in the for sale forum soon)
    Pioneer Elite VSX-21

    The only thing that is not new now is a leftover sub from my RM6600 the PSW350. Would upgrading to the TSi line sub make a difference? And although I love everything to match my sub can't really be seen where it is. So only musically speaking, would it make a difference.

    Thanks AGAIN!
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited November 2009
    You can never have too much base. I say buy a Sunfire True Sub. Small, compact, 2700 watts and goes down to 18hz.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • binarycool
    binarycool Posts: 51
    edited November 2009
    thuffman03 wrote: »
    You can never have too much base.

    I'll be sure to tell my neighbors this.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited November 2009
    thuffman03 wrote: »
    You can never have too much base. I say buy a Sunfire True Sub. Small, compact, 2700 watts and goes down to 18hz.

    Hahaha... i saw this coming a mile away. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • binarycool
    binarycool Posts: 51
    edited November 2009
    Let me be more specific, I'm on a budget. Sub would be under $600. Or am I good with the one I have?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited November 2009
    For $600 or under, you are absolutely not good with the one that you have.

    You could actually score the sub that Thuffman is talking about on the used market, and there's TONS of options in that price range even on the new market.

    Maybe a PSW505 from newegg? Or hell... two of them?

    Possibly a used SVS anything, Klipsch RW-12D, Mirage Omni S10 Prestige, Mirage Omni S12, Martin Logan Depth, etc etc etc...
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • GZ
    GZ Posts: 343
    edited November 2009
    Elemental designs have some good choices for under $600.

    http://www.edesignaudio.com/index.php?cPath=2_41
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited November 2009
    If you are willing to go up $100, the Epik Sentinel is hard to beat! $649 on sale plus shipping. www.epiksubwoofers.com I have one coming myself. I have heard nothing but great things about their subs. It will play down to 16 HZ and is near table flat from 20-200 Hz at reference level...

    Don
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2009
    Or you can build 2 really nice subwoofers for that $.

    Stereo subs *drool*
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    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2009
    dcmartinpc wrote: »
    If you are willing to go up $100, the Epik Sentinel is hard to beat! $649 on sale plus shipping. www.epiksubwoofers.com I have one coming myself. I have heard nothing but great things about their subs. It will play down to 16 HZ and is near table flat from 20-200 Hz at reference level...

    Don

    Epik subs are pretty nice.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • binarycool
    binarycool Posts: 51
    edited November 2009
    i wouldn't even know where to begin to build a sub..

    what are the benefits of having 2 subs besides volume?
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  • binarycool
    binarycool Posts: 51
    edited November 2009
    and is the general consensus that polk is the way to go for speakers, but not for subs?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited November 2009
    binarycool wrote: »
    and is the general consensus that polk is the way to go for speakers, but not for subs?

    For your price range.... probably not.

    The Micropro series are nice, though.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • binarycool
    binarycool Posts: 51
    edited November 2009
    would this price range of sub be overkill for tsi500s? should i be spending less? i am looking more for sound quality/accuracy than volume/wattage.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited November 2009
    I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as sub overkill. You can always turn the volume down on it.

    So... in the spirit of hopefully upgrading just once, i'd say your price range is good. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • binarycool
    binarycool Posts: 51
    edited November 2009
    upgrading just once? my tsi's aren't even delivered yet and i'm already thinking what's next lol
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited November 2009
    binarycool wrote: »
    upgrading just once? my tsi's aren't even delivered yet and i'm already thinking what's next lol

    Hahaha, ahhhh.... so you're sick. Just like the rest of us. :D

    In that case, i would think about maybe just grabbing a PSW-505 off of Newegg for cheap, and then either:

    1) Get another one and run stereo subs (Baller!!)
    2) use the remaining money for other new toys


    Or just get a big nasty sub now and get it over with. Because you'll want it. Might as well skip one upgrade step.

    I'm kindof in the same boat. I just got rid of my subs (Mirage Omni S8, Klipsch RW-10D) and now i'm waiting on my dual Dayton Titanic 10s. But i'm already thinking about what i can get later.

    Actually, i forgot to mention those. I think $600 can get you a Dayton Titanic 12" kit.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • gelinas
    gelinas Posts: 226
    edited November 2009
    as other have mentioned, you can never have too much sub.

    Would you consider one of the 18" epiks?
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  • BB3
    BB3 Posts: 297
    edited November 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Hahaha... i saw this coming a mile away. :)

    Man You Got That Right concealer404. hahaha. thuffman03 and his obsession with that Sunfire.......rightfully so though. Very-very good subwoofer.
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  • polkanddie
    polkanddie Posts: 224
    edited November 2009
    +1 on the Dual psw505's. Maybe a Micropro? depending on how much room you have... Just tell the wife its a coffee table you have to plug in
    TV- Insignia 46'' LED,1080p,120hz
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    Onkyo tx sr 503
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited November 2009
    SVS
    Klipsch RW-12D
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