LSi25, LSiC, LSiFX

wetcoast
wetcoast Posts: 64
edited December 2009 in Electronics
I posted once before about using my Denon AVR-886 as a Pre/Pro and I'm in the market for a power amplifier to run my LSi25, LSiC, LSiFX that are enroute.

I've received wife approval for an Amp around $2k all in.

I've narrowed my choices after some internet sniffing homework to the Outlaw 7700 and the Sunfire TGA-7201.

I would appreciate the Polkie opinion on how the above amps either compliment or degrade my new speakers? If you have a better suggestion on brand/model please enlighten me.

Thanks in advance,
Chris
Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
Filter: APC S15
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited October 2009
    Specific make/model aside, I'd suggest buying used.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited October 2009
    I've had an Outlaw Monoblock, & I have a Sunfire 5 channel 405wpc amp. Both brought out the best in my speakers. Both will do justice to your speakers. Pick whichever one floats your boat the most.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited October 2009
    405wpc!!! Do I need that much jam? My room is 36'L x 15'W x 8'H
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited October 2009
    Your LSI's will love it. More speakers are damaged with too little power rather than too much. So long as you don't get crazy with the volume knob you will be fine. Your ears will give out before the speakers do.

    The speakers will only take as much power as they need. But the power NEEDS to be there for them to take it when they need it. With an amp of 200wpc or more you know that the power is there for the speakers to access.

    It's about making sure your speakers can operate to their full potential.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2009
    wetcoast wrote: »
    405wpc!!! Do I need that much jam? My room is 36'L x 15'W x 8'H


    I have a Sunfire TGA-5400 (800w/ch @ 4 ohm) in an 11x12 room, with 4 LSi15s and a PSB Synchrony One center. Assuming you are not in an auditorium, the room size is irrelevent.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited October 2009
    I love my Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature series... for the money you have been alloted, you have many choices, including going with Mcintosh if you go used...

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1259421876&/Mcintosh-MC7205-like-new--bare

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261174847&/Sunfire-Cinema-Grand-signature

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261694405&/Krell-KAV500-Mint-priced-to-se

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261969411&/Parasound-Halo-A52-125wpc--bea

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261418582&/Rotel-RMB-1095-5-channel-200-W
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited October 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I love my Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature series... for the money you have been alloted, you have many choices, including going with Mcintosh if you go used...

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1259421876&/Mcintosh-MC7205-like-new--bare

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261174847&/Sunfire-Cinema-Grand-signature

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261694405&/Krell-KAV500-Mint-priced-to-se

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261969411&/Parasound-Halo-A52-125wpc--bea

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1261418582&/Rotel-RMB-1095-5-channel-200-W

    :eek: How do I choose now? I've not heard any of them with my own ears.
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited October 2009
    I love the Sunfire... all of them I picked will get the job done however, but my pick would be the Mcintosh.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited October 2009
    Thanks for all the help. I think I've made up my mind and I'll be sure to report back on my results. =P
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited October 2009
    let us know what you chose...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited November 2009
    a Cinema Grand 400 seven :)
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2009
    Well congratulations. Your LSI's will be very happy campers & you will be too.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited November 2009
    I love the Sunfire...:):):):):):):):):)

    01) DENON AVR-4308CI:D: Advanced 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH/ 3.1+2+2 CH A/V Home Theater /MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking and WiFi/170 watts x 7 channels
    02) SUNFIRE Grand Signature - Bob Carver's:D
    03) OPPO DV-980H 1080p Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI and 7.1CH Audio
    04) DENON DVD-2500BTCI: Blu-ray Disc™ DVD/CD Digital Player/Transport (change for a OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray Disc Player will be available soon)
    05) HITACHI P55T501. 55" HD1080 Plasma HDTV
    06) POLKAUDIO LSiC (Center speaker)
    07) POLKAUDIO LSi15 LEFT (Front speaker)
    08) POLKAUDIO LSi15 RIGHT (Front speaker)
    09) POLKAUDIO LSif/x LEFT (Surround speaker)
    10) POLKAUDIO LSif/x RIGHT (Surround speaker)
    11) VELODYNE OPTIMUN SERIES 12" (High Output Digital EQ SubWoofer 2400W/1200WRMS)
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited December 2009
    My Sunfire's on its way!!!! I should have my speakers Saturday, amp Monday and Blue Jean IC's on Tuesday!:cool:
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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  • dvran
    dvran Posts: 280
    edited December 2009
    wetcoast wrote: »
    I've received wife approval for an Amp around $2k all in.

    I'm 30 and have been married for 2 years, I don't understand this "wife approval". Do you guys need to ask for your testicles from your wife's purse every time you need to buy something? :)
    ~Dan

    Projector: Epson 705HD on 106" DaLite
    TV: Samsung 50" Plasma PN50B550
    Receiver: Onkyo 607
    Fronts: Polk 1000i
    Center: Polk Csi40
    Rears: Polk Fxi30
    Sub: Velodyne Minivee 10
    PS3 and Xbox
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited December 2009
    dvran wrote: »
    I'm 30 and have been married for 2 years, I don't understand this "wife approval". Do you guys need to ask for your testicles from your wife's purse every time you need to buy something? :)

    I'm also 30 and have been married for 2 years. I ask her because I like getting laid. I could be an a$$ and just spend everything we've got on selfish hobbies but I don't. I guess that's just me and several others here.

    Good luck with your divorce.:rolleyes:
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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  • dvran
    dvran Posts: 280
    edited December 2009
    wetcoast wrote: »
    I'm also 30 and have been married for 2 years. I ask her because I like getting laid. I could be an a$$ and just spend everything we've got on selfish hobbies but I don't. I guess that's just me and several others here.

    Good luck with your divorce.:rolleyes:

    wow, I must have hit a sore spot.
    ~Dan

    Projector: Epson 705HD on 106" DaLite
    TV: Samsung 50" Plasma PN50B550
    Receiver: Onkyo 607
    Fronts: Polk 1000i
    Center: Polk Csi40
    Rears: Polk Fxi30
    Sub: Velodyne Minivee 10
    PS3 and Xbox
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2009
    Nice answer Wetcoast.

    The sore spot is having jerks like you show that you have very little respect or consideration for your wife & feel the need to ridicule real men who do.

    Get lost. And I hope the wife takes you for all you have in the divorce.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • domflane
    domflane Posts: 653
    edited December 2009
    Congrats on your new rig wetcoast. I would kill for a full LSi setup running on Carver power . . . someday maybe . . . Post some pictures and let us know how it sounds when it all arrives. Enjoy it!!
    Home Theater
    RTiA5 - CSiA6 - FXiA6 - PSW650 - Pioneer Elite SC-55 - Carver AV-505 - Sony 46" 120Hz - Monster HP 2400 - Xbox 360 - Playstation 3
    2 Channel
    Polk RTA 15TL - Harman Kardon HK3485 - HK DVD48 - Signal Cable IC's and speaker cables
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,826
    edited December 2009
    +1 on asking the wife.. its one thing to spend $100 bucks on a small gadget but when you're talking a couple Grand always good to give the other half a heads up. When I purchased my set up, she said I don't care do what you feel we should get... but at least she was aware of it, as stated its about respect for your wife.
    Main 2ch -
    BlueSound Node->Ethereal optical cable->Peachtree Audio Nova 150->GoldenEar Triton 2+
    TT - Pro-ject Classic SB with Sumiko Bluepoint.

    TV 3.1 system -
    Denon 3500 -> Dynaudio Excite 32/22
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  • wetcoast
    wetcoast Posts: 64
    edited December 2009
    domflane wrote: »
    Congrats on your new rig wetcoast. I would kill for a full LSi setup running on Carver power . . . someday maybe . . . Post some pictures and let us know how it sounds when it all arrives. Enjoy it!!

    Thanks and I'm really looking forward to the quick review.
    coolsax wrote: »
    +1 on asking the wife.. its one thing to spend $100 bucks on a small gadget but when you're talking a couple Grand always good to give the other half a heads up. When I purchased my set up, she said I don't care do what you feel we should get... but at least she was aware of it, as stated its about respect for your wife.

    Yeah, it's not like my system is hurting from having to run it by her.
    Speakers: Polk LSi 25, LSiC, LSiFX
    Sub: Maelstrom X 18" DIY
    Amps: Sunfire Sig Seven, Behringer EP-4000
    Processor: Integra DHC-80.1
    Monitor: Sharp LC 60E77UN
    Sources: Motorola DCT-6416, PS3 Slim 250GB, Wii
    Filter: APC S15
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