A quick question about a cartridge and a phono stage.

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited October 2009 in Electronics
http://www.vtl.com/pages/tl55specifications.html

http://www.sumikoaudio.net/sumikocartridges/prod_bluepoint.htm

Based on the specifications in the links above, can someone tell me whether the Sumiko Blue Point No.2 Cartridge will work with the phono stage of the VTL 5.5?

Thanks,

Mike
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    **** I don't think it will work. oh well.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2009
    it will work, it's just that your phono stage can handle a MC cartridge with a much lower ouput, but yes you can use it.

    RT1
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited October 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    it will work, it's just that your phono stage can handle a MC cartridge with a much lower ouput, but yes you can use it.

    RT1

    +1 That cartidge and phono stage should work fine together.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 7,064
    edited October 2009
    Yep, it would work. Its a high output MC and they typically work perfect with most MM phono stages. You would use it with the MM setting on your pre. The output might be a tad lower than it would be with a standard 4mv MM cartridge, but that's OK because the impedance is a match. It wouldn't work right with the MC setting though.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    OMG You guys made my day!!!!!!!!!!! I bought this thing because I wanted the integrated phono stage. Thanks!

    RT1, how do you like all the tubes in that VTL 5.5? The prodigal son has returned!
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    solid,
    How many tubes and what kind do you have in the 5.5?

    What do you think of it so far?
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    RT1, how do you like all the tubes in that VTL 5.5? The prodigal son has returned!

    I knew it would only take a bit of time for you to find your way down the rice paper back to the tube path.

    I would'nt mind getting some VTL gear myself.

    Enjoy the gear and the sounds or visa-versa.

    Waiting for you to write what you hear with the pre and the cartridge.

    RT1
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2009
    let me add,

    the thing about a cartridge is you never know for sure how it is going to sound until you hear it, so try not to give up your old cartridge and some dealers will let you return it if you just do not like it.

    RT1
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    1251581289.jpg

    Here's a pic from the seller.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    Holy crap. I have exactly the same chassis with a whole lot less going on inside.

    I don't have the phono pre option and only 2 pairs of tubes.

    What is with those big **** caps?

    Very sexy btw :)
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    Interesting, I don't know about anything in there. Maybe I just lucked out. I hope the guy didn't do some DIY mods.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2009
    hi-fi baby, I see many things I like, the toroids could easily run an amp, nicely isolated one for each channel as well, the size and use of the capacitor banks will allow for transient speed and plenty of power reserve for impedance swing, bandwith, I bet she goes deep and back to high in a flash, pc boards nice and tidey circuit, and of course the tubey goodness. Extra tubes are added for your phono stage per the spec. I do not own VTL, I suppose the different caps are for that as well but call VTL and ask them.

    enjoy.

    RT1

    Edit--did you ask the seller if he upgraded the caps???
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    1251581290.jpg

    Man, that's a lot of tubes.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    I said "exactly" the same. I have the 2.5. The chassis is the same but the front plate is all silver. I like the look of yours.

    Inside mine is quite sparse. I only have 1 transformer IIRC. I will try to get a pic or two posted in my VTL 2.5 thread so you can have a look.

    There is a comparison just below the listing for your pre :

    http://www.vtl.com/pages/preamplifiers.html#TL-5.5

    If you are half as happy with your 5.5 as I am with my 2.5 you will be a very happy guy. :)
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    I said "exactly" the same. I have the 2.5. The chassis is the same but the front plate is all silver. I like the look of yours.

    Inside mine is quite sparse. I only have 1 transformer IIRC. I will try to get a pic or two posted in my VTL 2.5 thread so you can have a look.

    There is a comparison just below the listing for your pre :

    http://www.vtl.com/pages/preamplifiers.html#TL-5.5

    If you are half as happy with your 5.5 as I am with my 2.5 you will be a very happy guy. :)


    Oh I see. Makes more sense now.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited October 2009
    he, he,, congrats,,and welcome to the machine,, that sumiko is supposed to perform waaay beyond it's price,, or so I've been told,,let us know how it sounds.Have fun.;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Oh I see. Makes more sense now.

    Yeah, they "look" the same minus the cool faceplate. Same front-panel layout etc. Quite different on the inside.

    Did you ever listen to any ARC stuff as a comparison?
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    No, I haven't found any ARC gear affordable enough yet for me to snag. P
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited October 2009
    Hey,

    Got the TT working! It sounds awesome! The phono section of the 5.5 definitely seems to have a better sound and quieter background than my old JD-9A.

    Regards,

    Mike
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