Tower Speaker as Center Channel?

grimmace19
grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
edited October 2009 in Speakers
This may be a stupid question... or one that has been asked in the past. Has anyone experimented with using a tower speaker as their center channel? My thoughts would be that if you turned a big tower on its side it wouldn't be any different (other than size) of what a regular center is like. Am I being an idiot or would it be something to consider if I wanted to upgrade from the cs1 I am running now? Wouldn't a monitor 60 on its side (though it wouldn't look as good) sound better than a cs2?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2009
    Not a good idea, it's dispersion would be less than optimal.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited October 2009
    That is an odd idea....not using a tower as a center but putting it on its side..the speaker is not designed for that! The tweeter is designed to be at ear height and timed to reach your ear in the upright position. If you wanted to use it as a center it should stand upright. That would be OK. And some people do use 3 tower speakers of the same kind as L/C/R and claim that is even better than having an actual dedicated center channel?

    All I can tell you is that a CS2 will definitely be an improvement over the CS1...that's what I use in my HT along with some M70s, etc.

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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,826
    edited October 2009
    really the only time you would want to use a tower as a center is if you were using a projector and screen. and place the center behind the screen, but the screen would have to be audio transparent so that the sound would not be muffled coming from behind the screen.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited October 2009
    coolsax...

    That is exactly the situation I am refering to...sorry I wasn't more specific...but then again, how else would you use a tower as a center....that said.

    Many who have such a projection system swear by it.

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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited October 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    All I can tell you is that a CS2 will definitely be an improvement over the CS1...that's what I use in my HT along with some M70s, etc.

    cnh

    Couldn't have said it better myself. If you want/need a new center that bad the CS2 is the way to go. Laying a tower on it's side would cause all kinds of listening problems, the tweeter would be in the wrong spot and as stated above a tower speaker isn't designed to be layed on it's side. Just noticed you are running Monitor 70's as your mains, that may be why you are not happy with your center, that CS1 must have a hard time keeping up with those 70's. Get yourself a CS2 and call it a day, lol.

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2009
    If the tower were standing vertical it wouls be fine, but on it's side would be a no no.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited October 2009
    In an ideal situation, all of the speakers in a surround sound setup should be identical. Using three identical towers in a front soundstage, in particular, would have big benefits. As others have said though, laying it on it's side is a no-no.

    If you've got the space for it, a 3rd Monitor 60 would be a much better choice than either a CS1 or CS2.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited October 2009
    In an ideal situation, all of the speakers in a surround sound setup should be identical. Using three identical towers in a front soundstage, in particular, would have big benefits. As others have said though, laying it on it's side is a no-no.

    If you've got the space for it, a 3rd Monitor 60 would be a much better choice than either a CS1 or CS2.

    Very true Curt, but from the sounds of it he wants to lay it on its side. That would lead me to believe he doesn't have room to stand it upright.
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2009
    Thanks for all the info... I was more thinking hypothetically rather than actually considering doing it. I wasn't aware of the sound issues that would occur if you flipped a speaker on it's side. The cs1 is fine for now especially because the cs2 wouldn't fit anywhere. Besides the tweeter being in the wrong spot, what else happens if you tip one over?
  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited October 2009
    I was thinking like xcapri79, if you mounted a plasma higher on your wall and had a floorstander underneath it, then it should work out. I am looking at my RT800's and they would work under a flat screen plasma or LCD. I have seen people put tv's over there fireplaces at that height. It's an idea. I have some older high def. large tube XBR Sony tv's that I just lay across a CS400 or something similar so I could not experiment with your idea of a floorstanding center. Let us know how you make out with it.
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited October 2009
    Here is some reading from audioholics on CC which may be of interest. After reading it, picture a 2 or 3 way tower laid on its side and it may be easier to "see" the draw backs.

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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited October 2009
    I ran a tower as my center channel YEARS ago with a transparent screen. It wasn't bad, but when I upgraded to a REAL center channel, I was much happier. This was just my experience, but I found the vocal dialogue and effects to be much more defined, though that could have been the speaker too :D

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  • mordir1297
    mordir1297 Posts: 14
    edited October 2009
    This is an interesting read about center channel speakers. This may give you an idea why a tower speaker would work better as a center channel.

    http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=89614