dvd players with dacs

buymesome
buymesome Posts: 281
If a dvd player has good dacs (dont even know wtf they are) then would the best way to hook it up to a crappy cheap receiver be via rca red white, digital coax or optical toslink ?
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited October 2009
    you want to use the best DAC's you have available, so you would run the RCA's out.
    IF it has 5.1 output, then use that for HT.
  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    What about 5.1 using rca if there is only 2 outs on the dvd player ? If this is best then I will get some from monoprice
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited October 2009
    Hmmm..Get your read on. Do some research on DACs...5.1 isnt possible with only 2 outs.Is there an optical or digital output on the back of the dvd player.And what dvd player is it may I ask.? Does your receiver have optical or digital inputs?
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2009
    If you want to use the DVD player's DAC then you need to use the analog out. If you use a digital output (fiber, coax) then you will use the DAC of whatever equipment the cable goes to.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited October 2009
    BlueFox wrote: »
    If you want to use the DVD player's DAC then you need to use the analog out. If you use a digital output (fiber, coax) then you will use the DAC of whatever equipment the cable goes to.


    That is it! Simple as math 1+1 =2. There is no other way around it. I would recommend to hook up both analog and digital connections the same time (1.) L/R analog out from DVD Player to AVR CD input and (2.) Coaxial or Optical output from DVD Player to AVR either Coaxial or Optical input.

    Choose the CD input on the AVR ( analog) and listen a few tracks. Then switch the AVR input that is assigned to the Coaxial or Optical digital input and listen to the same tracks. You should be able to tell if both Dacs are pretty much the same or there is a difference.

    Do you have the Onkyo 606?

    I doubt the difference will be day and night.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,997
    edited October 2009
    He may not have all 5.1 pre-outs on his dvd player. If that is the case,the only way to get dolby digital surround is by the optical. He can hook up the analog left and right if he wants to play redbook cd's in 2 channel.
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    interesting tony , what are redbook cd's?

    I was asking mainly about cd's but other questions got answered so I bought rca's then digital coax and a fibre optic cable for my analog xbox360 .

    The xbox has always sounded terrible and now I know why so thanks guys
  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    That is it! Simple as math 1+1 =2. There is no other way around it. I would recommend to hook up both analog and digital connections the same time (1.) L/R analog out from DVD Player to AVR CD input and (2.) Coaxial or Optical output from DVD Player to AVR either Coaxial or Optical input.

    Choose the CD input on the AVR ( analog) and listen a few tracks. Then switch the AVR input that is assigned to the Coaxial or Optical digital input and listen to the same tracks. You should be able to tell if both Dacs are pretty much the same or there is a difference.

    Do you have the Onkyo 606?

    I doubt the difference will be day and night.

    I just got an onkyo 607 to play with but I'm hooking up the dvdp with an old 5.1 system
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    What about 5.1 using rca if there is only 2 outs on the dvd player ? If this is best then I will get some from monoprice

    That's where things get interesting. If you're wanting to test out the quality of the players DAC's, the quality you hear will be somewhat limited due to the fact that you'll be using some 'low end' interconnects. If you're not a cable believer or don't want to start dishing out extra $ then just go with optical and let your AVR do all the work. :)

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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    Its a crappy sound system though but ithe dvdp sounds ok through the onkyo 607 via hdmi
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    Its a crappy sound system though but ithe dvdp sounds ok through the onkyo 607 via hdmi

    Ok, then just go with the simpler solution if SQ isn't of your biggest priority. By the way, what type/model is this DVDP if you don't mind me asking?
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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    Its a $50 3002 marantz I won on the bay
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    interesting tony , what are redbook cd's?

    I was asking mainly about cd's but other questions got answered so I bought rca's then digital coax and a fibre optic cable for my analog xbox360 .

    The xbox has always sounded terrible and now I know why so thanks guys

    The Xbox should have passable sound on the Onkyo with a digital connection?

    And redbook CDs are the STANDARD for the highest quality that was adopted for CD sound when the CD was developed. Most CDs that you buy are redbook recordings.

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  • buymesome
    buymesome Posts: 281
    edited October 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    The Xbox should have passable sound on the Onkyo with a digital connection?

    cnh

    I have not used a digital conection thats why I got a toslink for it
  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    Its a $50 3002 marantz I won on the bay[/QUOTE

    Correct me if I am wrong ,the 607 has Burbrown Dacs (?) . I would think the Dacs in the Onkyo 607 is a better way to go for Movies Playback . Optical cables come in different grade . Eventhough the signals are transfered by glass or clear plastic, the premium optical always cost more than the dirt cheap one for a reason.

    Your Marantz will only do standard DVDs ( red book) and will not read the blu-ray disc.

    Monoprice has some cheap Optical cables. Do not buy the fancy heavy metal connector, they do not fit snuggly and may get loose.

    If you have coaxial out, try the Better Cable Coaxial. For video, just run the component cables straight to for Tv.
  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited October 2009
    buymesome wrote: »
    I have not used a digital conection thats why I got a toslink for it

    Oop, my bad. Your Marantz does have HDMI ouput . Just use the HDMI cables and let the 607 does the rest. End of the story.

    Monoprice HDMI is very nice. I bought several HDMI 1.3 Cat2 with net jacket from them and I cannot tell any difference between the Moniprice premium HDMI Vs the Monster Ultra 1000 HDMI. You either have the bandwith or you don't.

    For analog cables, it is another animal.