Dahlquist DQ-10s

concealer404
concealer404 Posts: 7,440
edited October 2009 in Vintage Speakers
A set of these in GREAT shape just popped up on CL for $450.

Run towards or away?

After researching, my biggest concern is that i may not have the space necessary for these things. My room is about 12x16, and they would be going against the long wall, and my couch is on the opposite long wall. Figure that i have about 8-9' between my sitting position and the opposite wall.

They're original owner speakers, owner has the reciept and literature.

Do i NEED these? :p
I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    I never heard a pair, are they really that sought after? Wonder if it's the same pair that appeared about a month ago in my CL. It had a few remarks such as "if you're an amateur audiophile, don't bother..." lol
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    It's these:

    http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ele/1410528856.html

    There's some weird stuff popping up on CL here...

    AR9LSs...

    http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/ele/1409301068.html


    The Dahlquists seem to be good speakers, from everything that i've been able to find, just old. But these have been re-foamed, so i'm not real worried from that aspect. I'm just unsure if they're worth the asking price.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    Same here! lol

    If you think that's something, check these out - http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/1407863377.html
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    OH wtf.... 16 tweeters each? A McIntosh line array. Interesting.... I wonder if they're truly worth that price. Why would anyone paint the tweeter column matte black? That would piss me off.

    But those ARE strange... I think you win.

    Although it's a toss-up between the McIntoshes and the Dahlquists as to which would look more bizarre in my living room. :p Which of course, is half of the appeal to me...
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    Hmm, I like those Monitor 10B's but they're overpriced imo.

    Here's a pair of B&W's I auditioned - http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/ele/1403581373.html
    Didn't like the metal tweeter they employ, but that doesn't mean I won't take B&W into consideration if I move up to music-only speakers.

    There are a ton of maggies as well ranging from 250-600. I have to ask, why are they...."affordable" I know that you'd have to look for bad tweeters/etc cuz those could run you alot of $ to replace but if they're in perfect working condition with no tears to the sock and stands/bases included is there a catch? I ask cause I heard a pair in a smaller room (yes I know they need alot of room) but damn they sounded nice and it makes me want a pair.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,216
    edited October 2009
    A buddy of mine had 2prs and sold 1. He upgraded the x-overs and mirror imaged them and built some beuatiful stands for them. Also had a new Regnar woofer added. They are a unique speaker (in a positive way) they need some breathing room, they won't play terribly loud before the super tweeter starts to break up badly. They don't have a lot of bass, but a decent amount. They image fantastically and make recordings come alive..........that's their thing. Vocal's, acoustic, jazz, etc they sound absolutely wonderful. They won;t play Ac/Dc with any kind of conviction and they won't achieve high levels of spl.

    There is lots and lots of info about the DQ-10's as they have reached cult status. $450 for a pair that's in good shape and has been refreshed is right in the ball park.

    IMO, everyone should experience these in their audio journey.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Phil Dawson
    Phil Dawson Posts: 288
    edited October 2009
    I owned a pair of the DQ-10 for a year or so a while back. They are very power hungry. Even with a HK Citation amp at 200WPC and 100 amps in high current mode I couldn't get them to play loud. They had a good clean sound but they didn't seem to breath or have an airy feel. I traded them off for a McIntosh 2100 to run my sub and I've been very happy. They do represent a bit of audio history but I sure wouldn't give very much for another pair of them. For that kind of money you can get far better sound (IMHO) from Polk, AR JBL, maybe even Bose (shudder). Let us know how you like them if you buy them.
    Good Luck, Phil




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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,090
    edited October 2009
    My first 'real' pair of speaks were DQ-10's....properly driven, they sound amazing. 450 for a pair in good shape, with stands is a good price. Not a steal but not bad, either.

    BDT
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    Hrmmm... so basically, probably not great for half of what i listen to, and will probably need a sub for my tastes.

    I think i'll probably have to pass on these for now. Maybe another day when i have the luxury of having room for another setup.

    Thanks guys!

    Guess i'll try to pick up those S6s and see what the fuss is all about with those. :D
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

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  • Phil Dawson
    Phil Dawson Posts: 288
    edited October 2009
    What did you drive them with? How big was your listening room? I had a large romm (1100 square feet) and didn't have enough amp-see above.
    Thanks, Phil
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    What did you drive them with? How big was your listening room? I had a large romm (1100 square feet) and didn't have enough amp-see above.
    Thanks, Phil

    Oh i didn't pick them up... this thread pretty much turned me off to them in my current situation. I doubt i have QUITE enough amp right now, a 12x16 room, and they probably won't be the best idea for what i normally listen to. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,090
    edited October 2009
    I had them in a small 11x12 room....nothing spectacular on the gear....but I absolutely loved them. Kinda wish that I still had them

    BDT
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,216
    edited October 2009
    They are fabulous. Very open, airy, and they sort of disappear. My only point is they aren't headbanging speakers. Sure they'll play Metallica, Ac/Dc, Tool, Rage, etc....just not how most headbangers are accustomed to hearing the music.

    Too bad you passed on them.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    I dunno... we'll see how long they stick around and if i can move this Klipsch sub i have. I'm interested in trying them for sure, just not sure HOW interested with the mixed reviews in this thread. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • Phil Dawson
    Phil Dawson Posts: 288
    edited October 2009
    It sounds like the problem I had may have been with the size of the room I had them in. I listened mostly to Jazz and other acoustic type music and they always sounded pretty good it's just that they didn't fill up the large space very well. I also like the occasional large orchestra and rock band cranked up too. I would up with SRS-SDAs and I don't think that the DQ-10s are even in the same league. Just my 2 cents. There are many speakers that don't sound as good as the DQ-10s.
    Good Luck, Phil
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited October 2009
    IMO, everyone should experience these in their audio journey.

    Agreed and then sell them.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited October 2009
    I remeber hearing these in a couple of local shops early in my audio journey... Even then, they had a near fanatic following and to be honest, I never really understood why. I remember the sound as decent but not awesome. Not sure what they were driven with and like I said, it was early in my journey - but they did not demo in a way that made me ask more questions about them (except why).

    Just as an FYI - things I listened to at the time that did make me ask questions and want more were Vandersteen, Carver Amazings, Mangnepan and Polk Audio. (ended up with the Polk SDA's)

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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited October 2009
    I heard a pair at fredv's powered by his tube gear. It was impressive for detail and imaging, not much bass. It was a nice sound. Then he hooked up his Carver ALIIIs and I forgot all about them. The Carvers offered even better detail and astounding bass...dominated them in every way.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,216
    edited October 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    I heard a pair at fredv's powered by his tube gear. It was impressive for detail and imaging, not much bass. It was a nice sound. Then he hooked up his Carver ALIIIs and I forgot all about them. The Carvers offered even better detail and astounding bass...dominated them in every way.

    That's like comparing a pair of Monitor 5B's with SDA SRS's :). The Dahlquists when set-up properly and with modern caps in a more intimate setting sound excellent for vocal, jazz, acoustic, etc........

    They need to be experienced just once in your audio journey. Certainly not the one's last speaker but unique in it's own way and can sound excellent

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited October 2009
    i heard a set that looked sadly neglected but they still sang out loud and clear. very "clean" sound to the set i heard is the only way i can think to describe them.

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