cheap spkr cable recommend

buymesome

I would like recommendations for cheap speaker cables 4 surrounds and 3 fronts

Right now I use bare wire and want to have cables with pins or bananas but my four reaers are on the wall so bananas may not work for that application

I need 25 ft each for the fronts to give me placement flexibility . Would using such great length affect sound quality ?

Does joining my speaker wire together that has been previously used affect sound quality ?
Whats the most efficient way to link two bare wires together?

bklynNupe

Ben from the forum recommended this to me when I was looking for “affordable” cable.
I upgraded from bulk wire from monoprice. I am very pleased with the results, much more clarity and no noticeable harshness.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQT4B

buymesome

Thats still bare cable though

Ben is the guy with all the costly components I think from reading posts. Does he use this ?

I will give brand alot of consideration thanks

Face

http://signalcable.com/speaker_cables.html

http://bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm

Pauly

Face wrote: »

http://signalcable.com/speaker_cables.html

http://bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm

His OP says cheap.

These are good quality affordable cables.

You want cheap goto Rat Shack buy in bulk and buy locking nanners or spades and call it a day.

Good luck

Pauly

buymesome

The signal cables are 69 each that isnt too outthere although a tad over budget still may be worth it for the quality

So far from the info the audioquest has me excited as it seams to be high quality for low budget

WilliamM2

buymesome wrote: »

The signal cables are 69 each that isnt too outthere although a tad over budget still may be worth it for the quality

It starts at $69 for 6 feet. 25 feet is $141.

bklynNupe

buymesome wrote: »

Thats still bare cable though

Ben is the guy with all the costly components I think from reading posts. Does he use this ?

I will give brand alot of consideration thanks

I would think that Ben uses his own cable?
When I contacted him about purchasing some, he indicated that he was focusing more on producing IC’s rather than speaker cable.
My guess is that he has used it at some point given his recommendation?


Don’t be mad at him because he has quality **** in his rig!:D
I’m glad he took to time to cut through the slew of marketing b.s. and offer a great affordable recommendation.
Most “experienced” folks in hi-fi shops rarely take time out to educate and not hustle a newbie.

fbm211

Canare 4S11 is a solid choice too.And at 1.19ft its one of the best bang for the buck speaker cables out there.Its also perfect for long runs.
Link> http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/product_view.cgi?products_id=535

NJPOLKER

Just a piece of advice which is not audio related. The word cheap is not a good word to use to describe what your looking for. I am far from a good writer but affordable is a much better way to say what your really looking for. Cheap would be using something like old/used extension cord wire.

MLZ

fbm211 wrote: »

Canare 4S11 is a solid choice too.And at 1.19ft its one of the best bang for the buck speaker cables out there.Its also perfect for long runs.
Link> http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/product_view.cgi?products_id=535

And if you cover it with TechFlex and heatshrink the ends you can easily build some great looking cables. :cool: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94203

fbm211

+1--- Awsome link for a DIY canare 4S11 Build MLZ

MLZ

fbm211 wrote: »

+1--- Awsome link for a DIY canare 4S11 Build MLZ

Since I was using Canare StarQuad, I built my cables with 4 spades on the speaker ends so I could see what bi-wiring was all about - I did not hear any improvement in SQ, but no harm either so I have let them be. And I think the cables look really cool

dvran

From what I've seen on many audio forums, having terminal points on the ends of cables versus bare wire does not make a difference. I prefer to have terminal only because it's easier to hookup and its a cleaner look.

Monoprice.com should have more than adequate speaker cable for you needs.

jinjuku

Are you looking for spade connections or banana plugs?

Spades will most likely be hard to connect to the back of your receiver.

One question no one bothered to ask: What is your budget?

jinjuku

buymesome wrote: »

Does joining my speaker wire together that has been previously used affect sound quality ?
Whats the most efficient way to link two bare wires together?

As in extending the length? If you can just replace it. If not you will solder and shrink wrap.

Mon40CSMM10

Cheap cable? Royal Cable. It can be purchased at WalMart, and is found in the car stereo section. It seems to work well enough for both car stereo and home stereo applications--it's what I'm using in my home speaker setup.

Banana plugs and such will have to be purchased separately--try Fry's Electronics or Best Buy for the twist-on type of banana plugs.

Easiest way of joining two bare wires together? Twist the wires together and cover using a screw-on electronics wire cover/cap. Again, that's what I did for the surround speakers and it seems to work well enough.

buymesome

Thats what I did, I just twisted the wire but I used paper tape for just now

My budget will be around 120

I have bananas but I will be mounting 2 on the back wall so I might need spades

I did buy some walmart speaker wire once.....never again though as there was no way to tell the polarities .When you run a long cable it becomes antagonizing

Face

xcapri79 wrote: »

Here is a good link on the subject of speaker wire.
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

RR is over rated. Have you ever heard any of his amps?

kevhed72

All the cheap speaker cable you need can be found in your own closet...har, har, har, har...but make sure you use the metal ones, not plastic.

ben62670

buymesome wrote: »

Thats still bare cable though

Ben is the guy with all the costly components I think from reading posts. Does he use this ?

I will give brand alot of consideration thanks

You may have me confused with another Ben, or I may have me confused with another Ben. I can't afford expensive cables, or expensive components. What I have done is research what cables I found were real bargains. I can make Polkies IC's that sound better and are cheaper than most cables out there buck for buck, but when it comes to speaker cables the AQ Type4's are a real good deal in bulk new, or on the used market. BTW I also use the AQ CV4's which are more than twice the price of Type 4's. It all depends on your rig, and your hearing.
Ben

ben62670

xcapri79 wrote: »

What is technically wrong with Radio Shack 16AWG speaker wire?...
...Here is a good link on the subject of speaker wire.
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

Don't get hung up on numbers...
Woger Wussell is a joke. According to guys like him all amps with the same specs would sound the same also:rolleyes:

Gaara

ben62670 wrote: »

Don't get hung up on numbers...
Woger Wussell is a joke. According to guys like him all amps with the same specs would sound the same also:rolleyes:

There is a HUGE thread over on AVS that states just that...I think it was actually a CP member who started it. I think it got unruly so now they have the "Official All amps sound the same" thread

ben62670

Maybe a few Polkies should take up new residence over there;) They would at least have people that feel the same way:) They could pat each other on the rear and tell each other how smart they are for saving so much money on their systems. You have to love that all amps sound the same. Brings a tears to my eyes.

CoolJazz

xcapri79 wrote: »

At any rate, he is a well respected contributor in audio.

So was Julian Hirsch. Having tin ears doesn't seem to disqualify somebody's audio comments for some!

Again, look at the steel terminals on the back of the Mac amps and think about the impact on negating cable changes that will have. Filter all the silly Roger Russell comments through that filter!

Changing those steel posts for high quality Cardas posts does have a big impact on sonics!! I've done it and heard it! It does improve an already respectable amp. Dissimilar metal to metal contact does have an impact.

To get back to the OP questions...

wrote:

I would like recommendations for cheap speaker cables 4 surrounds and 3 fronts.

If it's for audio then be sure to qualify cheap versus the intended use!

xcapri79 wrote: »

I need 25 ft each for the fronts to give me placement flexibility . Would using such great length affect sound quality ?

Yes! That must be a huge room to need a 50 foot spread in the front! Dampening factor will be noticeably impacted by that much length! Every reduction of speaker cable length has an impact on that critical motor interface and the resulting signal back to the amplifier!

CoolJazz

heiney9

xcapri79 wrote: »

Personal attacks don't work. Let's keep it more positive and less hostile.

I doubt Julian cares...................since he's 6 feet under along with his tin ears

heiney9

I believe he already is and has been

danz1906

Anti-Cables

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/dad.pl?cablspkr&1258112618

Face

Gaara wrote: »

There is a HUGE thread over on AVS that states just that...I think it was actually a CP member who started it. I think it got unruly so now they have the "Official All amps sound the same" thread

It's a shame so many are misled.

xcapri79 wrote: »

No I havent heard his amps.
Wasn't he more into speakers when he was with MacIntosh?

Both. Did you know he uses Cardas wiring in his own speakers? http://www.ids25.com/specifications.htm

CoolJazz wrote: »

So was Julian Hirsch. Having tin ears doesn't seem to disqualify somebody's audio comments for some!

Again, look at the steel terminals on the back of the Mac amps and think about the impact on negating cable changes that will have. Filter all the silly Roger Russell comments through that filter!

Changing those steel posts for high quality Cardas posts does have a big impact on sonics!! I've done it and heard it! It does improve an already respectable amp. Dissimilar metal to metal contact does have an impact.

To get back to the OP questions...

If it's for audio then be sure to qualify cheap versus the intended use!

Yes! That must be a huge room to need a 50 foot spread in the front! Dampening factor will be noticeably impacted by that much length! Every reduction of speaker cable length has an impact on that critical motor interface and the resulting signal back to the amplifier!

CoolJazz

Well said CJ.

F1nut

Face wrote: »

It's a shame so many are misled.

Both. Did you know he uses Cardas wiring in his own speakers? http://www.ids25.com/specifications.htm


Well said CJ.

Agreed.

Slam dunk!

Agreed.

anhchungdoan

heiney9 wrote: »

I doubt Julian cares...................since he's 6 feet under along with his tin ears

I do not know that he had tin ears or not but we all will be 6 feet under one way or another someday, don't we?

In John Crossett's review of the Bryston 4 Bsst and the Audio Research SP16L and he highly recommended the combination but I beg to differ. The Sp16l is dark and bloating in the bass department while the Bryston SST line is transparent but just not there ( musical ) for me.

What I am trying to say is what's best for one's ears will not be best for others.

My friend who owns the only-left-hi-end audio in the big city, I can drop by anytime and can spend as much time if I want to listening to all his ultra hi-end demo from Krell Evo line to AR ls26 or BAT or Cary with Esoteric lines/ Rega CDPs...there is no best or perfect piece of equipments.

I am sorry if I offend any fan boy of the Bryston or the Audio Research or Krell but it's my money and my ears ( pretty golden after all these years), I buy gear that please my ears and my bank account.

I am no brand name fan boy. I use Monster speaker cables for my Pio receiver since I determine that all it can deserve. I use Kimber/ Harmonic Tech/ Audioquest since that all i derserve with my entry level hi-end gear be it Krell, Audio research or Bryston...

Peace on earth, brothers. We can piss each other off for many more moons, it will not gain or loose anything.