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Norm Apter
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Well, today is the first day of classes here at UCLA and as someone who still takes advantage of the libraries on campus for writing and research, I'd have to cite Matthew McConaughney character's apt observation in Dazed and Confused: "That's what I like about them girls: I keep getting older and they stay the same age"
No, but seriously if there are any fellow polkies who like myself were in their late teens / early twenties in the early-mid 1990s, I'm here to inform you officially that our generation (of men) got ripped off. Young ladies adorned in baggie sweaters, loose plaid flannel shirts, hiking boots. I mean, WTF? The ill effects of grunge were not limited only to the music scene. Things are so much better these days, at least in SoCal.
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No, but seriously if there are any fellow polkies who like myself were in their late teens / early twenties in the early-mid 1990s, I'm here to inform you officially that our generation (of men) got ripped off. Young ladies adorned in baggie sweaters, loose plaid flannel shirts, hiking boots. I mean, WTF? The ill effects of grunge were not limited only to the music scene. Things are so much better these days, at least in SoCal.
O.K., back to work...
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Norm Apter wrote: »The ill effects of grunge were not limited only to the music scene.
What?! You are implying that Grunge was a bad thing? Really?
I'm shocked. There is an open indie scene from American Roots Rock through to Experimental Voice that is available to us because of the grunge scene.
The commercialization of grunge and a long list of **** bands that followed in the late-90's through a couple of weeks ago is what has had "ill effects".
Because of Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam and Nirvana, along with some precursors to them (including but not limited to The Violent Femmes, King Missile, The Deadmilkmen, and on and on), I can appreciate a lot of types of music that would've been stylistically against the norm, but great none the less....
But as far as girls and the way they look now... Geeze, guy... You are spot on. We were ripped off.
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What?! You are implying that Grunge was a bad thing? Really?
I'm shocked. There is an open indie scene from American Roots Rock through to Experimental Voice that is available to us because of the grunge scene.
The commercialization of grunge and a long list of **** bands that followed in the late-90's through a couple of weeks ago is what has had "ill effects".
Because of Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam and Nirvana, along with some precursors to them (including but not limited to The Violent Femmes, King Missile, The Deadmilkmen, and on and on), I can appreciate a lot of types of music that would've been stylistically against the norm, but great none the less....
But as far as girls and the way they look now... Geeze, guy... You are spot on. We were ripped off.
I suppose I wasn't thinking about the broader picture, rather just the music of the times. Back in the day, I admit to being swept up in the scene (Nevermind was released in September(?) of my Freshman year of college and pretty much dominated dorm life for that entire year). But I guess even back then I thought that there was more interesting stuff coming out of bands that I didn't consider grunge -- Jane's Addiction, Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys and RHCP. I just felt like these sounds were getting pushed out of the alternative or "college" rock scene as an overload of up and coming bands tried to replicate the success of Nirvana. In some sense, I think we're on the same page here.
I'll still put on Pearl Jam's Ten and enjoy it, but much of the other stuff released then seems pretty dated. Just my .02.2 Ch.
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You know what Stuart? I like you. You're not like the other people here
in the trailer park. Oh no, don't get me wrong, they're fine people, good
Americans. But they're content to sit back, maybe watch a little Mork and
Mindy on channel 57. Maybe kick back a cool Coors 16-ouncer. They're
good fine people, Stuart. But they don't know what the **** are doing
to the soil.
You know that Johnny Werzner kid - the kid who delivers papers in the
neighborhood? He's a fine kid. Some of the neighbors say he smokes
crack, but I don't believe it. Anyway, for his 10th birthday, all he
wanted was a burrow owl, just like his old man. "Dad, get me a burrow
owl. I'll never ask for anything else as long as I live". So the guy
breaks down and buys him a burrow owl. Anyway at 10:30 the other night I
go out into my yard and there's the Werzner kid looking up in the tree. I
said, "What are you looking for?" He said, "I'm looking for my burrow
owl." I say, "Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick! Everybody knows that a
burrow owl lives in a hole in the ground! Why the hell do you think they
call it a burrow owl, anyway?!" Now Stuart, do you think a kid like that
is gonna know what the **** are doing to the soil?
I first became aware of this, about 10 years ago, the summer my oldest boy
Bill Jr. died. You know that carnival that comes to town every year?
Well this year it came with a ride called the Mixer. The man said "Keep
your head and arms inside the mixer at all times." But Bill Jr., he was a
daredevil, just like his old man. He was leaning out saying, "Hey
everybody! Look at me, look at me!" POW! He was decapitated. They found
his head over by the snowcone concession. A few days after that, I open
up the mail and there's a pamphlet in there, from Pueblo, Colorado. And
it's addressed to Bill Jr. And it's entitled, "Do you know what the
**** are doing to our soil?"
Now Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large U.S. city with a big
underground homosexual population - Des Moines, Iowa, perfect example.
Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart. You can't build on it, you
can't grow anything in it. The government says it's due to poor farming.
But I know what's really going on, Stuart. I know it's the ****.
They're in it with the aliens. They're building landing strips for ****
Martians. I swear to God.
You know what Stuart, I like you. You're not like the other people, here
in the trailer park.
BEST LYRICS EVERI never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
Norm... my friends and I were having this exact same discussion the other day. I went to college from '96 to '99. Girls on the indie and punk scenes could give a **** about how they looked. I always found that a bit charming and kinda sexy. Maybe I have a librarian fetish... A hot **** librarian with combat boots and Buddy Holly glasses. Yummers.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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zombie boy 2000 wrote: »Norm... my friends and I were having this exact same discussion the other day. I went to college from '96 to '99. Girls on the indie and punk scenes could give a **** about how they looked. I always found that a bit charming and kinda sexy. Maybe I have a librarian fetish... A hot **** librarian with combat boots and Buddy Holly glasses. Yummers.
Yeah.... you're really creepy. I'll chain my girlfriend up when you're around, mmmmmkay?
I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.
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Best Beastie Boys: Paul's Boutique.Norm Apter wrote: »I suppose I wasn't thinking about the broader picture, rather just the music of the times. Back in the day, I admit to being swept up in the scene (Nevermind was released in September(?) of my Freshman year of college and pretty much dominated dorm life for that entire year). But I guess even back then I thought that there was more interesting stuff coming out of bands that I didn't consider grunge -- Jane's Addiction, Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys and RHCP. I just felt like these sounds were getting pushed out of the alternative or "college" rock scene as an overload of up and coming bands tried to replicate the success of Nirvana. In some sense, I think we're on the same page here.
I'll still put on Pearl Jam's Ten and enjoy it, but much of the other stuff released then seems pretty dated. Just my .02.
Yeah I think we are on the same page. I got a bootleg tape of Nirvana's "Bleach" from a college disc jockey that was a friend of my brother or a friend of a friend of his or some convoluted crap. Anyway, that and NIN "PrettyHateMachine" and the ViolentFemmes self titled shuffled me into that period. I gave up on our generations music sometime around Creed or LimpBiscuit or some other such bull$****.
Recently, I popped by SubPop's website to see who all was still around, only to find that they are supporting some eclectic material anymore. And thanks to the internet, I can type in a band's name in Pandora and hear other bands that fit a genre... Which has led me to other record labels, and down a slippery slope of indie music.
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zombie boy 2000 wrote: »You know what Stuart? I like you. You're not like the other people here
in the trailer park.
Nice!
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Sub-Pop was decent, but I think the best labels of the era had to be Matador and Touch and Go.
Man or Astro-man? was my band of choice throughout high school and college. People actually thought they sold out when they stopped selling their music exclusively on vinyl and started showing some love to the digital market. Best shows I've ever been to... and I've been to a lot.
Some other honorable mentions for that time:
Archers of Loaf
Tortoise
Mogwai
Trans-Am
Rentals
My Bloody Valentine
PJ Harvey
The Pixies
Flaming Lips
Fugazi
Belly
Mazzy Star
Sonic YouthI never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
zombie boy 2000 wrote: »Sub-Pop was decent, but I think the best labels of the era had to be Matador and Touch and Go.
Man or Astro-man? was my band of choice throughout high school and college. People actually thought they sold out when they stopped selling their music exclusively on vinyl and started showing some love to the digital market. Best shows I've ever been to... and I've been to a lot.
Some other honorable mentions for that time:
Archers of Loaf
Tortoise
Mogwai
Trans-Am
Rentals
My Bloody Valentine
PJ Harvey
The Pixies
Flaming Lips
Fugazi
Belly
Mazzy Star
Sonic Youth
Again, zombie... NICE!
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The CD collection I bought this past weekend has alot of groups from the 90s.
I missed alot of the radio pop groups or who ever because of working and only hearing classic rock or sermons so this is really cool to hear who was popular and it seems this girl who worked in a music store sure knew her groups and aquired some cool CDs.
Even a Talking Heads Long Box set that has the DVD included in mint cond. I can't wait to watch Burning down the house on my awsome suround set up that I have now. I just added 2 klipsch 12" subs into the system.
Here is just a very small part of what I bought.
6 Fugazi's
6 Radioheads
Flaming lips
The Pixies
A few Sonic youths
The Beastie Boys Ultimate..4 CD set
A few Violent Femmes
Portishead..dummy.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
