magnetic shift insurance

zarrdoss
zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
edited September 2009 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I have a lot of time sitting around the house and being quiet so I decided to get some hefty adhesive and glue around all the magnets around the top plate and bottom on the magnet to prevent loosing a driver to magnetic shifting. I figured what the hell better than doing nothing.

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I pulled out one driver at a time and glued it and then replaced it. The glue set up fast so no dripping, then left the last one out and put a small fan blowing inside to help dry faster and will put the last one in tomorrow when its all good and dry.

Take care.
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,387
    edited September 2009
    What adhesive are you using?
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited September 2009
    Its called quick grip, seemed to work really well on the trial speaker. Anything that bonds to metal and ceramic should work. now only 24 more drivers to go!
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited September 2009
    zarrdoss wrote: »
    I have a lot of time sitting around the house and being quiet...
    zarrdoss wrote: »
    ...now only 24 more drivers to go!

    You aren't kidding!
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,780
    edited September 2009
    I've never seen or heard of a magnet seperating where you glued it. Usually, they seperate from the basket, and the peices you glued shift or fall off, still attached together.
  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited September 2009
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,780
    edited September 2009
    zarrdoss wrote: »
    the basket is riveted on to the top plate, here this will help

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87460&highlight=magnet+shift

    Interesting. Here is the method I have seen used before, glad I didn't bother.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=936784&postcount=1

    It made sense to me at first, the only magnet failure I have had was on a set of Rti-28's, and the magnet seperated from the basket. There were no rivets on that speaker.
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2009
    So, they are held on with rivets. How do you reinstall the assembly to the speaker basket?
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited September 2009
    I have done some research and preliminary tooling to "re-center" the shifted pole plates and magnets on the MW65XX series of drivers. As far as I can tell so far.... the "base" plate is fastened to the basket by 4 rivets and ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Most often it is the pole (outermost) plate that shifts when the adhesive fails, sometimes the magnet itself detatches from the base, with the pole plate still centered on the magnet. To really insure that all pieces stay put I put a heavy bead of JB Weld on both sides of the magnet, right up against the two plates. Prior to applying the JB, I use a professional grease & wax remover from an auto body supply shop to get everything absolutely clean. I don't ever expect to have the drivers fail due to shifting after performing this procedure. Fingers crossed !!! Link to thread with pics of a MW6510 that was "disassembled" by a member which I have gratefully obtained from geoff727. I am still interested in acquiring more drivers with shifted poles/magnets if anyone has some that are destined for the landfill.:)

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87460
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,446
    edited September 2009
    will dipping the magnets up to the bottom of the basket in some sort of plastic resin or that material used to make rubberized grips for tools work for this purpose?
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  • tx_polkhead
    tx_polkhead Posts: 248
    edited September 2009
    will dipping the magnets up to the bottom of the basket in some sort of plastic resin or that material used to make rubberized grips for tools work for this purpose?

    I doubt the rubber grip material will have the same kind of HOLD that true addhesive will have, also the dip will give the entire magnet structure a blanket not sure that's a good idea...
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited September 2009
    Guys most of the original MW were not riveted. I have had about 10 drivers damaged in shipping.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=654292&postcount=141
    Nearly none of these were riveted.

    Epoxy may work. I have used high heat hot glue.
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited September 2009
    You can easily tell if they are riveted, just shine a AA mag light into the spider in a darkened room and you will see the rivets through the spider