A milestone in SACD
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Yes sir folks, 6000 SACD's released to date.
Dead format my ****.
Dead format my ****.
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Nope, not dead, just sad that number doesn't have a couple more zeros on it
Blame it on the MP3 generation for watering down the quality of recorings. God knows I do lol
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Yes, but 5500 of them are classical.:p
I would like it very much, if they would re-issue some of the ones that are already out-of-print. -
LessisNevermore wrote: »Yes, but 5500 of them are classical.:p
That's the problem. Yes, there are 6000 SACD's, and only about 150-200 that I'd actually buy.
That's enough for me though.:D I'm planning on buying as many of them as I can.The nirvana inducer-
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Not happy with the selection and who is? Want to see more of what interests you? Write the record labels and tell them what SACD's you want.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Yes sir folks, 6000 SACD's released to date.
Dead format my ****.
Agreed, I hope to see more SACDs in the near future.Linn AV5140 fronts
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LessisNevermore wrote: »Yes, but 5500 of them are classical.:p
Yeah, there is that. Maybe if they tried something a little more uh... fun, i think that was the word I was looking for. Not dissin the classical, but if it has to be classical-esque, it had better be Kronos Quartet, and not Bach."They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.
"The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
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Not happy with the selection and who is? Want to see more of what interests you? Write the record labels and tell them what SACD's you want.
Didn't you post a website that served that very purpose a while back?
It'd be great to see more rock SACD's. We need more Floyd...some Doors...more Allman Brothers. Maybe even some Grateful Dead.The nirvana inducer-
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comfortablycurt wrote: »It'd be great to see more rock SACD's. We need more Floyd...some Doors...more Allman Brothers. Maybe even some Grateful Dead.
Two upcoming SACD titles each from the Doobie Bros. and the Band are being prepared by Mofi.
Btw, SACD will celebrate its 10th anniversary in the US next month. -
Two upcoming SACD titles each from the Doobie Bros. and the Band are being prepared by Mofi.
Btw, SACD will celebrate its 10th anniversary in the US next month.
Wow, 10yrs!Linn AV5140 fronts
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Does anybody know the cost of producing SACD's? I'm trying to figure out a way of bargaining w/ the record labels.
In other words, what would be the MINIMUM # of SACD's a co. would need to justify the costs?
If it's 1,000, great. I'm sure I can find 1,000 Rush fans, who are audiophiles!:rolleyes:I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE! -
Does anybody know the cost of producing SACD's? I'm trying to figure out a way of bargaining w/ the record labels.
In other words, what would be the MINIMUM # of SACD's a co. would need to justify the costs?
If it's 1,000, great. I'm sure I can find 1,000 Rush fans, who are audiophiles!:rolleyes:
I don't think you'll have problems finding enough audiophiles to buy a Rush SACD....the problem is whether Rush's record label allow you to manufacture a SACD of the band. -
I don't think you'll have problems finding enough audiophiles to buy a Rush SACD....the problem is whether Rush's record label allow you to manufacture a SACD of the band.
Exactly my point. I'm thinking a petition, and a GUARANTEED minimum purchase
I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE! -
I don't think you'll have problems finding enough audiophiles to buy a Rush SACD....the problem is whether Rush's record label allow you to manufacture a SACD of the band.
They still owe an apology for Vapor Trails....
A re-mixed, re-mastered, Vapor Trails SACD, with dynamic range, would be a very acceptable apology.:D -
Not happy with the selection and who is? Want to see more of what interests you? Write the record labels and tell them what SACD's you want.
Do you think it would be better to contact the labels that already produce sacd's, and press them, or labels that don't currently release in sacd format?
I think, at least with the larger labels, it will be like shooting pool with a rope. They won't listen to most of their artists, let alone Joe Public, who's supposed to just shut up and buy. -
Look, I'm not trying to be greedy. Just give me 2112, A Farewell to Kings, Hemisphere's, and Moving Pictures. Didn't really care for anything after MP anyway, so...
Ofcourse, if they want to ADD Fly By Night, and Caress of Steel, that's cool too!I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE! -
Count me out on the Rush SACD's.;) The last thing I want to do is hear Rush in MORE detail...lol
Not a fan. Pert's a good drummer, but that's about as far as it goes in my book. Hopefully you guys get your Rush SACD's though.The nirvana inducer-
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LessisNevermore wrote: »Yes, but 5500 of them are classical
Which is great for me since that is where my musical taste is currently residing.
The problem I am having with SACDs is remembering which ones I already have so I do not rebuy the same SACD. Imports going for more than $20 is another problem area that needs to be addressed.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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I just bought a new SACD edition of The Downward Spiral. It sounds fantastic on the Oppo BD-83 I picked up to test. I wish Tool would put some HiRez stuff out. If that happened, I might really consider buying an Esoteric or something to do my SACD duties.
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I think everything Chesky Records is releasing these days is available on hybrid SACDs.
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LessisNevermore wrote: »Yes, but 5500 of them are classical.:p
Based on a calculation I did back in 2005, based on the numbers of titles listed at sa-cd.net (3,263 SACD titles listed at sa-cd.net as of 9/13/05), classical music comprised 85% of all SACD releases. I doubt that percentage has changed much since then.Does anybody know the cost of producing SACD's? I'm trying to figure out a way of bargaining w/ the record labels.
In other words, what would be the MINIMUM # of SACD's a co. would need to justify the costs?
If it's 1,000, great. I'm sure I can find 1,000 Rush fans, who are audiophiles!:rolleyes:It's too bad and surprising that Beatles Remastered didn't have some SACD or at least hybrid SACD offerings. Is the reason more commercial than technical?
My opinion is that it's not any technical issues standing in the way of more SACD releases....after all, they have had 10 years to perfect the technologies. If any technical issue exist, it would be the current lack of production capabilities for pressing SACD, with only 2 plants in the world pressing SACDs right now.
So it comes down to commercial, and maybe cultural reasons. Music companies want to lower their cost and SACD will always cost more to press than regular CD. Then there are the loyalties issue....a hybrid surround sound SACD can have 3 different versions of the same recordings (CD, SACD 2 channel stereo, and SACD surround sound) and some artists/producers want multiple royalties from one single disc. Still, for example, with some titles like those from the Beatles, you'd think any additional cost due to production/royalties of SACD will be covered by the sale of those titles. Did we get a Beatles DVD-A with the "Love" soundtrack, after all?
Then perhaps the music companies are thinking regular CDs are "good enough" for the general masses. If iPods are being sold in the millions and music nowadays is viewed as aural wallpaper, then who gives a rat's **** about sound quallity. Why sink more $$$ into technology that will only satisfy a tiny group of consumers? They'll buy the CDs anyway.... -
They make BRD-R drives for pc's now, right? Why can't they do the same thing for SACD?
I would think the technology is out there, where each artist/ record label could license their music to an independent contractor to just burn the SACD's from their pc, by request. Just have whoever remixed DSOTM write the program.
I KNOW I'm over simplifying it, but I'm trying to work the problem, and not just sit back and 'take it'!I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE! -
It's too bad and surprising that Beatles Remastered didn't have some SACD or at least hybrid SACD offerings. Is the reason more commercial than technical?
I think Danny Tse nailed it. Triple the royalties, including Sony's cut, and you're probably looking at $400 for the set.They make BRD-R drives for pc's now, right? Why can't they do the same thing for SACD?
I would think the technology is out there, where each artist/ record label could license their music to an independent contractor to just burn the SACD's from their pc, by request. Just have whoever remixed DSOTM write the program.
I KNOW I'm over simplifying it, but I'm trying to work the problem, and not just sit back and 'take it'!
I hate to say it, but I think the only way we'll see something on the consumer end, will be high-res downloads-burned to a DVD-A, or Bluray format. Even then, I doubt it, unless the labels suddenly get over their fear of piracy. -
It's a little silly for them to fear piracy, when their niche audience is willing to spend $10,000 for pair of speaker cables?:rolleyes:I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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It's a little silly for them to fear piracy, when their niche audience is willing to spend $10,000 for pair of speaker cables?:rolleyes:
Actually, hybrid SACD is quite a good product....the DSD layer has yet to be hacked by any pirate while remaining backward compatible with millions (billions?) of CD capable drives in portable CD players, car CD players, computers, DVD players, etc. The CD layer....anyone can get that. Therefore, it comes down to commercial will whether to sick your corporate neck out and risk a SACD release. Unfortunately, most won't take that risk.
On a related note, while the 6,000th title on sa-cd.net is certainly a worthwhile milestone, the real 6,000th SACD title has been released a while back. In reality, we're currently closer to 6,100 SACD titles than 6,000. -
SolidSqual wrote: »I just bought a new SACD edition of The Downward Spiral. It sounds fantastic on the Oppo BD-83 I picked up to test. I wish Tool would put some HiRez stuff out. If that happened, I might really consider buying an Esoteric or something to do my SACD duties.
I have both SACD and the DVD-A of TDS and the SACD is much better sounding imo.
I too wish Tool would do a Hi-rez release. Lateralus is HDCD but can't compare to any of the Hi-rez formats.
I am waiting on some new SACD titles to arrive. I am totally hooked on them. Makes me sad to think that we may never see this format survive for anything other than classical releases. I'm probably going to build my classical collection from SACD's completely. The BDP-83 has opened a new door for me just in time to get my foot caught in it as slammed shut.:(-Kevin
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Classical and Jazz (with some blues) shine on SACD because they are more musical than any other Genre.
Of course the guys that wrote those tunes are mostly dead and the guys that listen to them are almost dead. So in that regard its a dead format.
Of course the Dead Sea has been Dead a very long time but its still on the map.
The SACD is dead...Long Live the SACD, I have nearly a hundred and fifty of them now, in the warm glow of the Loft's tubes I covet and keep them safe.
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Look at the below numbers I just compiled from sa-cd.net's database....New SACD releases (through August of each year)
2006....495
2007....471
2008....395
2009....383
The number of releases have definitely slowed down; for pop/rock SACD titles, there has not been much action. Still, given the world's current economic situation, the format is doing alright. Don't forget that for 2009, the announced but yet-to-be-released SACDs of Doobie Brothers (2 upcoming titles from Mofi), The Band (2 upcoming titles from Mofi) , and Nat "King" Cole (at least 3 multi-channel SACD titles remastered by Steve Hoffman) are yet to be included in sa-cd.net's total. -
I really need to own more SACDs....
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I really need 30 minutes with Jessica Alba.............check that who am I kidding, I really need 30 seconds with her with Nora Jones and Peter Malkovich SACD playing in the background.
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