Upgrade from DSW Pro 500; sugestion??

jolax73
jolax73 Posts: 225
edited August 2009 in Speakers
Hey folks!

I currently own a DSW Pro 500 and after testing it for a few days, I find that this sub is not up to my expectation. My HT room is about 300 sq ft and thinking of upgrading it to an SVS, HSU or Epic but not really sure which model to get. Any suggestion for my upgrade? I am thinking anything below $800 and probably used instead of new.

Anyone had experience with these subs I mentioned, please throw in your 2 cents. Thanks!
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  • FittyFieFo
    FittyFieFo Posts: 482
    edited August 2009
    Jolax,

    I'm in a similar position as well. I'm pretty certain I will be buying the NEW PB10-NSD or PB12-NSD from SVS. They are both on sale right now. Not sure about the comparison, but Freddy (kawizx9r) told me to look at SVS. From the reviews, I heard they are great SUBS at a great price. I have a PSW125 and Freddy keeps telling..this sub will kick my current sub in the **** and then run circles around it ;)

    PB10-NSD I think would be $500 shipped, and PB12-NSD is $628 shipped.
    Samsung LN52A850 (52" 1080P LCD TV) | RTi A9's (Fronts) | Csi A6(Center) | FXi A6 (Rear Surrounds) | SVS PB12-NSD (Sub) | Oppo BDP-103 | Panamax M5300-PM

    Pre-Amp: Marantz AV7005 | Amp: Emotiva XPA-5 | Speaker wires: Signal Cables | Interconnects: Signal Cables
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    I would prolly go with the 12 inch. I think 10 inch is just not enough juice to make your heart thump. Anyway, what about their cylindrical sub versus the box one. which one is better?
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    hey I notice you got the xpa-5, how do u like it? did u buy it new or used? if u ever decide to sell it. let me be the 1st one to know.
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    How is the SB-12NSD compare to the new SB-12Plus. Do u know?
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  • FittyFieFo
    FittyFieFo Posts: 482
    edited August 2009
    jolax73 wrote: »
    I would prolly go with the 12 inch. I think 10 inch is just not enough juice to make your heart thump. Anyway, what about their cylindrical sub versus the box one. which one is better?

    I did some research on their cylindrical subs and heard nothing but great things. It's obviously different than a boxed subwoofer, but I think that thing is just too tall for me and my room.

    The decision is yours, but I've been doing my research only on SVS and it looks like people choose their products because of their customer service. Pretty much offering a great subwoofer while backing it up with their customer service. Can't really ask for more.

    I would wait on responses from other polkies, I'm not one for giving our advice, just opinions.

    hey I notice you got the xpa-5, how do u like it? did u buy it new or used? if u ever decide to sell it. let me be the 1st one to know.

    Haven't hooked up the XPA-5 yet, but will be in a couple of weeks. I'm in the "fast-pace" buying home theater stuff. Just bought a TV stand and an Audio stand that should be arriving at my house in a week. Then, I gotta take measurements for my speaker wire, going to buy from Signal Cables.

    When I do hook up, trust me, there will be pictures! As for selling the XPA-5, :(. I don't think I am. You can go on Emotiva's forum (The Eporium" or something like that. People sell their amps for pretty good prices) In fact, I think someone is selling a SVS Subwoofer for $700 shipped
    Samsung LN52A850 (52" 1080P LCD TV) | RTi A9's (Fronts) | Csi A6(Center) | FXi A6 (Rear Surrounds) | SVS PB12-NSD (Sub) | Oppo BDP-103 | Panamax M5300-PM

    Pre-Amp: Marantz AV7005 | Amp: Emotiva XPA-5 | Speaker wires: Signal Cables | Interconnects: Signal Cables
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited August 2009
    Best bang for your buck go with Epik. $800 you could get the Epik Sentinel.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited August 2009
    jolax73 wrote: »
    How is the SB-12NSD compare to the new SB-12Plus. Do u know?

    I would say all things would be better on the plus ;)

    As far as boxed and cylinder versions go, the cylinder is a more appropriate approach if youre wanting to save some space but still get that quality svs sound. I havent heard both of them side by side to compare, but can tell you that the cylinder versions get low, and deep while providing some amazing output. Coming from a friend, his opinion is that boxed subs (of the same type/etc) have more weight in their bass and tend to pound harder as opposed to their cylinder version, but they dont reach as low of a frequency at the same output. Like I said, those cylinders get LOW.
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited August 2009
    Have not heard the subs you are asking about. They all have good reps but if I were you I would look into getting a Sunfire True sub. Several are out on eBay right now below your budget.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    thuffman,
    Which model would u recommend for Sunfire?
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited August 2009
    Sunfire True Sub MK II or MK IV are in a pretty good price range right now. I just missed getting a MK II about a week ago for $360 on Ebay. The MK II's have been going for about $500 in the last month. The MK IV's are going to be a bit more. Both have the same spec's but the MK IV's have a few upgrades to the amp. Pricing has been way down on them and there has been quite a few on the market.

    It is really hard to beat a 2700 watt sub that goes down to 18 Hz. I have mine turned all the way down and it still shakes the house.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    thuffman,
    But the MKIi is only 8" sub. how would this compare to the SVS or Epic 12" sub? I know the Sunfire has more wattage but with 8" sub, how can it produce enough shake compare to the 12" ones?
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  • ls7z06
    ls7z06 Posts: 95
    edited August 2009
    I should have some good feedback for you in a few days. I also currently have a DSW Pro 500 and on Saturday, I ordered a new PB12-Plus from SVS. It is scheduled to get here on Wednesday....all 127 pounds of it. I have not heard one and made my decision based on the raving tech reviews and tremendous forum recommendations I read. Will let you know how it works out.
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  • eclimax13
    eclimax13 Posts: 168
    edited August 2009
    i just bought the pc12plus and it is unreal...just a beast of a subwoofer and worth every penny i paid for it
    Theater: Epson 8500ub, Elite 120" screen, Lsic, Lsi25, Lsifx, SVS Pc12plus, SVS Pc12plus, Emotiva Xpa-5, Denon Avr3311ci, Sony Bdps1000es
    Living Room: Panasonic TCP58VT25, PS3, Energy FPS, Onkyo Tx sr707, Sony Ps3, DswmicroPro 2000
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    ls7z06,
    Sweet, let me know how it compares to the DSW Pro 500.....BTW, what color did you buy? I see that the black charcoal is discontinued.
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited August 2009
    jolax73 wrote: »
    thuffman,
    But the MKIi is only 8" sub. how would this compare to the SVS or Epic 12" sub? I know the Sunfire has more wattage but with 8" sub, how can it produce enough shake compare to the 12" ones?

    The Sunfire has a active and a passive plus all that power makes it a very powerful producer of base. The SVS and Epic are fine subs but I would not trade in my Sunfire for either.

    To give you a feal for my system I have a Carver TFM 55 which puts out 500 wpc into my 4 ohm Carver AL III's speakers. The sunfire has so much power I have it turned almost all the way down to it lowest volume level. If I did not do that it would overshadow my system and shake my house that my stove vibrates and items on shelves fall off.

    Hope that helps and anwsers your question.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • ls7z06
    ls7z06 Posts: 95
    edited August 2009
    jolax73 wrote: »
    ls7z06,
    Sweet, let me know how it compares to the DSW Pro 500.....BTW, what color did you buy? I see that the black charcoal is discontinued.

    I ordered the gloss piano black.
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited August 2009
    thuffman03 wrote: »
    Have not heard the subs you are asking about. They all have good reps but if I were you I would look into getting a Sunfire True sub. Several are out on eBay right now below your budget.

    I was waiting for that :p next time I'm in the Pitts area I'm gonna have to look you up thuffman. Sure would like to hear that sunfire, and the rest of your setup.
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    pioneer elite vsx-92txh
    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
    sa 8300 hd dvr
    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
    surrounds - fxi a6's
    sub - polk dsw pro 600
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited August 2009
    Just let me know superjunior when you are planning to come to the area. I would love to demo my setup to you or anyone who wants to stop by.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • jolax73
    jolax73 Posts: 225
    edited August 2009
    Aha...after researching I was thinking of either getting Epic Sentinel or SVS PB-12 Plus. Which one do you guys recommend?
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited August 2009
    thuffman03 wrote: »
    Just let me know superjunior when you are planning to come to the area. I would love to demo my setup to you or anyone who wants to stop by.

    sounds good man
    panasonic th-50pz85u
    pioneer elite vsx-92txh
    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
    sa 8300 hd dvr
    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
    surrounds - fxi a6's
    sub - polk dsw pro 600
    harmony one
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