Pioneer Kuro 5020: $1999.99 + tax at Best Buy Outlet

mshan242700

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8869147&st=kuro&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1210290068342

Pioneer has apparently stopped making their own plasmas, so these are going to become more and more rare.

thuffman03

Nice find....If I was in the market for a tv that would be a good choice. Thanks!

BB3

Thanks for the "heads up". That is great buy, indeed.

billbillw

Beware: The 5020 was one of the best when it came out, but that was over a year ago. The newest Panasonic models (PV10 series) are as good or better, and for less money. The problem with the non-Elite Pioneers is they don't let you choose color temp or do any tweaking of the colors. Its hard to get them to a reference quality.

The newest Panasonic models may not be quite as good in terms of absolute blackness, but they offer better color and better shadow detail, oh, and they are cheaper.

thuffman03

Thanks...I was going off of how it stacked up to my TV I bought 2 years ago. I have not gone out and looked for a long time.

mshan242700

Someone on another forum who seems to follow these tvs closely said in past that Pioneer was a couple years ahead of Panasonic in terms of plasma panel technology.

I also saw comments that, relative to Pioneer Kuro, Panasonic is slightly grainy.

I am no expert, so I can only convey what I have read and consistent enthusiasm of others for this hdtv at that price.

restanim

I have the PDP-6010FD which is a 60" er and 1 year older than this TV and I find that it has an amazing picture. After I bought and watched it I have'nt looked back. If you are in the market for a 50" er, do yourself a favor and buy this TV.

BTW BB offers free shipping , but you have to pay sales tax:(

mshan242700

This guy was able to pick up an Elite 111FD for about $2400 earlier this year (YMMV):

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=67&threadid=2310933&highlight_key=y&keyword1=Pioneer

cheddar

billbillw wrote: »

Beware: The 5020 was one of the best when it came out, but that was over a year ago. The newest Panasonic models (PV10 series) are as good or better, and for less money. The problem with the non-Elite Pioneers is they don't let you choose color temp or do any tweaking of the colors. Its hard to get them to a reference quality.

The newest Panasonic models may not be quite as good in terms of absolute blackness, but they offer better color and better shadow detail, oh, and they are cheaper.

While the disabling of the controls for the non-Elite Kuros is annoying (especially since it was done just for this last generation), this is still a great panel, especially at this price. A V10 is only a few hundred cheaper and only at discount to retail. IIRC, they use the same panel as the elites, just have different control options.

Seems to be more of a choose your compromise issue for a picture that is less than a kuro elite. At this price point, they both cost about the same and should both have a great picture.

cheddar

mshan242700 wrote: »

This guy was able to pick up an Elite 111FD for about $2400 earlier this year (YMMV):

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=67&threadid=2310933&highlight_key=y&keyword1=Pioneer

The 111FDs are supposed to be pretty hard to find now. Although it doesn't hurt to look around and ask. There seem to be deals even at local boutique shops as there are at big box retailers like BB. That is, if they still have any in stock...best to get one from a reputable source with the full warranty.

danz1906

Thats a great deal on a Kuro.

kevhed72

Not sure if this an older model, but Abe's of Maine has had the KRP500 for around 1800.00 for awhile now:

http://www.abesofmaine.com/item=PRKRP500M~item.htm

mshan242700

Abe's of Maine offers 2.5% - 13% Cash Back, and Microsoft may be doubling Cash Back starting August 10.

WilliamM2

kevhed72 wrote: »

Not sure if this an older model, but Abe's of Maine has had the KRP500 for around 1800.00 for awhile now:

http://www.abesofmaine.com/item=PRKRP500M~item.htm

As long as you don't need a tuner, that model's just a monitor.

unclepauly

WilliamM2 wrote: »

As long as you don't need a tuner, that model's just a monitor.

Ya I don't need the tuner or the shatty speakers. Looks perfect.

kevhed72

mshan242700 wrote: »

Abe's of Maine offers 2.5% - 13% Cash Back, and Microsoft may be doubling Cash Back starting August 10.

More info. please, or is it posted on their site somewhere....

mshan242700

kevhed72 wrote: »

More info. please, or is it posted on their site somewhere....

http://www.bing.com/shopping/pages/howtouse.aspx

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&threadid=2198292&enterthread=y

kevhed72

Thanks much for the info....so basicallly just go to Bing.com and search for Abe's of Maine (for example), and I will find the cashback as I am shopping via the Bing search engine. This sounds too easy....

mshan242700

Looks like Abe's of Maine Bing Cash Back is currently doubled (probably because of Microsoft promo).

Currently listed at 5% - 26% (I would assume 5% for such a large ticket item).

hockeyboy

Here is what you should be looking at. A better TV for 900 bucks after the Bing discount.

http://www.bing.com/shopping/Panasonic-Viera-TC-P42G10-42-Plasma-TV/search?q=panasonic%20viera%20tc-p42g10&p1=%5bCommerceService%20scenario%3d%22o%22%20docid%3d%228BA294B43CCDE1516C8D%22%20cashback%3d%221%22%5d&wf=Commerce&scope=cashback&FORM=ENCA0

SoundArtillery

Cool . . . now I just need 2 Gs.

billbillw

hockeyboy wrote: »

Here is what you should be looking at. A better TV for 900 bucks after the Bing discount.

http://www.bing.com/shopping/Panasonic-Viera-TC-P42G10-42-Plasma-TV/search?q=panasonic%20viera%20tc-p42g10&p1=%5bCommerceService%20scenario%3d%22o%22%20docid%3d%228BA294B43CCDE1516C8D%22%20cashback%3d%221%22%5d&wf=Commerce&scope=cashback&FORM=ENCA0

Really should be comparing apples to apples. The Pioneer that is being discussed is a 50".
Here are some current deals on the 50" PV10.
http://www.bing.com/shopping/Panasonic-Viera-TC-P50V10-50-Plasma-TV/search?q=panasonic%20viera%20tc-p50v10&p1=

debussyj

I have a Pio 5020 and a Sammy LCD 850 and I love my Pio more than anything else. The blacks are fantastic and color saturation is amazing. Obviously, I'm really partial to the Pio! DJ:)

hockeyboy

Bill's right about the size though- apples to orange a bit. However if you are looking for an award winning 42 inch that is a friggin steal buying through Bing.