Possible way to add an external Amp

kcoc321

I have been looking the the Velodne MiniVee Subs to add as a Pair to enrich my Bass, and I noticed they have included a Line Output in addition to the Line inputs on their subs.

Has anyone tried this?

Is there any way to change the cross-over point? The manual I read said it was at 80hz..in essense the same as I can assign in my AVR. But then the amp & speaker connected to it would only get >80hz signal.

comfortablycurt

That's meant for daisy chaining subs...not hooking up external amps.

In theory I guess it might work...but I wouldn't even bother trying personally.

kcoc321

I'll have to call them about that. IF I daisy-chained a second Sub to the line-out, it looks like it would not get the appropriate signal, since the line-out is being filtered to only put out signal above 80hz, at least the way I read it.

So would you just use a "y-splitter" instead?

kcoc321

bigger pic from the manual

tried resizing it, but time expired before I could repost it.

Face

Even if it does output the full spectrum, I would not want to use the A/D converter from a plate amp, it probably wouldn't sound good at all.

Just save up and do it the right way.

nguyendot

Face wrote: »

Even if it does output the full spectrum, I would not want to use the A/D converter from a plate amp, it probably wouldn't sound good at all.

Just save up and do it the right way.

What A/D converter? It's all analog already. They intended it this way so you can use satellite speakers in a sub/sat configuration and the sub would already be crossed over at it's optimum frequency. That would make matching satellites rather hard though.

Marty913

kcoc321 wrote: »

I'll have to call them about that. IF I daisy-chained a second Sub to the line-out, it looks like it would not get the appropriate signal, since the line-out is being filtered to only put out signal above 80hz, at least the way I read it.

So would you just use a "y-splitter" instead?

Yes, you would want a Y-splitter assuming you have a receiver or integrated amp with a bass-management system. The crossover line-in/line-out jacks on the MiniVee's are for using the subs in an environment (typically sub-sat) with a pre-amp / amplifier system that does not have a bass-management capability.

kcoc321

comfortablycurt wrote: »

That's meant for daisy chaining subs...not hooking up external amps.

In theory I guess it might work...but I wouldn't even bother trying personally.

thanks Curt..So would I use a Y-slitter then?

Face wrote: »

Even if it does output the full spectrum, I would not want to use the A/D converter from a plate amp, it probably wouldn't sound good at all.

Just save up and do it the right way.

Dr Face Thanks for your input. Can you enlighten me what you talkin about with the A/D converter? Sorry, I don't understand.

I would be "branching fron the 2-channel outputs from my Preamp, that does not have Sub outputs, and only one set of outputs (B&K PT3)
What would be the "right way" to do it? Looking for Full Range connections to the Sub and the Amp & other speakers.
Thanks

Marty913 wrote: »

Yes, you would want a Y-splitter assuming you have a receiver or integrated amp with a bass-management system. The crossover line-in/line-out jacks on the MiniVee's are for using the subs in an environment (typically sub-sat) with a pre-amp / amplifier system that does not have a bass-management capability.

Thanks Marty, I am hoping that is a way to have the bypass loop Full Range if I can [IF I can keep this Preamp and don't have to junk it and get a different one] Do I need a AQ or eq "Y" or is the std Rat-shack gold ones okay?

Do I loose signal strength using a "Y" as opposed to looping thru the sub?
Or is there some kindof "Distribution hub" that would be better?
Thanks everyone.

Face

I shouldn't post before my AM coffee... Not a A/D converter, I meant speaker level to line level circuit.

I would look into a receiver with preamp outputs and an adjustable subwoofer crossover frequency. HK will probably be cheapest to have all these features and make good receivers. From there I would recommend Onkyo.

Marty913

kcoc3210,,

You mentioned that the PT3 had no sub outputs. I thought the PT3 had Mono/Sub outputs in addition to both High Pass outputs and Full Range output. Am I missing something or just not remembering the PT3 correctly?

kcoc321

No, Marty you are complete correct. Thanks for your input.

My PT3 does have a (1) FUll Preout, sub out (x'd at 80hz I think) a mono out (L/R together) and a High range Preout.

That is why I was alittle confused with the suggestion to buy a HK AVR...lol....sorry, that's not going to happen...At least for me.
Besides I also already have a B&K 101 that does have (2) sub preouts, so I could always try that..although the x-over pt is not changable on the earlier AVR's.

Back to 2.1: However...I was thinking about how to try and run 2 subs Full Range AND run my Fronts Full Range. Maybe it is mute, but I have been reading ppl saying they like it that way especially for music...

Besides with the "possible" daisy chaining with the MiniVee, I could Bi-amp Full Range as well....oh well...

Guess I'll just be stuck with one amp Full range.....and just "y" the sub out.

Till I find a 'high audio' 1 to 4 splitter...hehe.
Or a reasonably priced, warm sounding Pream with MORE preouts.

Thanks everyone.:D