Credence Clearwater Revival -- any fans?

Norm Apter
Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
edited August 2009 in Music & Movies
You know, I had never listened to these guys (well...except for that one scene when they play "Suzie Q" in Apocalypse Now while the Playboy bunnies are putting on their show) before tonight.

I came across CCR's Greatest Hits CD at the library and decided to check it out. I have to say that its really good. Is it me or are these guys underrated / underappreciated?

Or maybe my tastes are just changing and I'm finding that one must go back to the 1970s (the decade in which I was born) to rediscover some of the best authentic rock. Really good feel to their tunes...right now taking in their version of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" which is just fantastic.

Having a hard time classifying them -- seems like a mix of rock, folk, and rockabilly...
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited July 2009
    CCR is awesome.

    They've got a bunch of titles on SACD...I've been contemplating picking them up.
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited July 2009
    +1 ;).
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited July 2009
    CCR is a damn good listen!!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2009
    oh yeah Sus Q and Grapeveive--long versions + 2 :)
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited July 2009
    I like one of their songs: "Run Through the Jungle", and probably only because of 'Air America'
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited July 2009
    Own a couple of their SACD's. We used to go see them every summer at the CNE.
    Michael ;)
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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited July 2009
    Norm Apter wrote: »
    Is it me or are these guys underrated / underappreciated?

    Could be you as I think these guys are still quite popular. One of the best of all times, if you ask me (they broke up a year after I was born).

    One of my dad's favourites as well. :)
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited July 2009
    Yep, +1 to CCR. I thought they were quite popular, so not sure they are underrated...
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited July 2009
    +1 on CCR and even John Fogerty has some good stuff.

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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2009
    Some great 2.5 minute songs from those boys, but John Fogerty needs to get kicked down a flight of stairs.

    When CCR was inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame, they were supposed to perform on stage at the ceremony. The three other guys show up with their families for the induction ceremony, only to find out THEY would not be onstage playing their own songs. Fogerty refused to perform with his old band. Fogerty got his way, and other people played onstage with him. Lowlife.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2009
    Great band.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    fun times listening to CCR
    remembering back to the 1970's

    should have keep the muscle cars
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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited July 2009
    +1 here too.
    I'm a younger-ish kind of guy and because of my geographical location was practically raised on CCR and Three Dog Night.

    If you lost your memory and needed to know what day/night it was, you could always turn on the radio and if there was a CCR song playing it was definitely a Friday or Saturday night.

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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited July 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    Some great 2.5 minute songs from those boys, but John Fogerty needs to get kicked down a flight of stairs.

    When CCR was inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame, they were supposed to perform on stage at the ceremony. The three other guys show up with their families for the induction ceremony, only to find out THEY would not be onstage playing their own songs. Fogerty refused to perform with his old band. Fogerty got his way, and other people played onstage with him. Lowlife.

    Agreed George. Some of these "Stars" forget one the main reasons they are rich. Their fans.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2009
    Love CCR :cool:
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2009
    I'll be honest. I really don't listen to what many consider to be "classic rock". The ONE exception being CCR. I absolutely love them.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited July 2009
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    I'll be honest. I really don't listen to what many consider to be "classic rock". The ONE exception being CCR. I absolutely love them.

    More like "Southern Rock"
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2009
    Better yet.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited July 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    Some great 2.5 minute songs from those boys, but John Fogerty needs to get kicked down a flight of stairs.

    When CCR was inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame, they were supposed to perform on stage at the ceremony. The three other guys show up with their families for the induction ceremony, only to find out THEY would not be onstage playing their own songs. Fogerty refused to perform with his old band. Fogerty got his way, and other people played onstage with him. Lowlife.

    What an ****. Anyone remember when his old record company sued him because Old Man Down The Road sounded too much like Run Through The Jungle? What a joke. Sued because your own music sounds too much like your music. Sheesh. By the way, Fogerty won.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited July 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    When CCR was inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame, they were supposed to perform on stage at the ceremony. The three other guys show up with their families for the induction ceremony, only to find out THEY would not be onstage playing their own songs. Fogerty refused to perform with his old band. Fogerty got his way, and other people played onstage with him. Lowlife.

    Oh yes, the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame....such a soup opera.

    Didn't the Eagles had such issues when it was their turn? Same with Van Halen....only Michael Anthony and Sammy Hager showed up to collect their honors. If only Journey can get into the Hall....

    Back to CCR....just got my first SACD of theirs yesterday.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2009
    You can't compare his behavior at the induction to anyone else's behavior. CCR was a band that never had any personnel changes. The same four guys played on all the songs ever released by CCR.

    The Eagles are a bunch of girl scouts. I would've expected a hissy fit. Van Halen too.
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited July 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    Some great 2.5 minute songs from those boys

    Yes, you're absolutely right. Again, I've only listened to this greatest hits compilation (I think its called Chronicle: Vol. 1) but all of the songs seem to be quite short but very very good. But then I get to track #16, their version of "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" and was just blown away. 11 minutes long and has this incredible groove and guitar-work.

    Since I don't have any of their original material, I'm just wondering if any of their original albums have longer grooves like this one. That song alone really showcases their talent as musicians, if the shorter ones are a testament to their songwriting abilities...just wondering if this 11-minute song was indeed the single exception to their rule of 2.5 minute songs as you mentioned.

    Hoping its not, because I really like it. Anyone?
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2009
    It showcases their talent huh? Fogerty complained that he had to write short, **** songs, cause his band wasn't up to snuff.

    I heard it Through The Grapevine, Suzie-Q, and maybe I Put A Spell On You were long songs, that's it. Interesting how none are original songs by Fogerty. Also interesting is how on the cover of that album you're referring to, Chronicle, they are billed as CCR FEATURING John Fogerty. So maybe that's when the Diana Ross and The Supremes **** started for CCR.

    The man could write a 3 or 3 minute hit song, that's for sure. He's right up there with Brian Wilson (maybe trailing a BIT).
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2009
    Forgot one little tidbit. He never would reconcile with his BROTHER Tom, the rhythm guitar in CCR. His brother took John's bad feelings with him to his grave.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited July 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
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    I got the SACD box set plus the concert. CCR is good stuff. Keep on chooglin. ;)

    Wow...there's a box set? I've never seen that before...I'm gonna have to pick that up sometime. Thanks for the heads up Mike.:)

    Looks like I've got a few trips to the pLasMa CenTEr to make soon.:p
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited July 2009
    Norm Apter wrote: »
    You know, I had never listened to these guys (well...except for that one scene when they play "Suzie Q" in Apocalypse Now while the Playboy bunnies are putting on their show) before tonight.

    I came across CCR's Greatest Hits CD at the library and decided to check it out. I have to say that its really good. Is it me or are these guys underrated / underappreciated?

    Or maybe my tastes are just changing and I'm finding that one must go back to the 1970s (the decade in which I was born) to rediscover some of the best authentic rock. Really good feel to their tunes...right now taking in their version of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" which is just fantastic.

    Having a hard time classifying them -- seems like a mix of rock, folk, and rockabilly...

    I think George has covered it all...he knows way more than I about this but we're about the same age. Norm, you're a youngster! But that's cool!

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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited July 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    I think George has covered it all...he knows way more than I about this but we're about the same age. Norm, you're a youngster! But that's cool!

    cnh

    I think that some of us who came of age musically (i.e. teenage years) in the 80s had some difficulty appreciating the 70s artists. I turned 10 in 1983, just when MTV and 80s synth music exploded, and the marketplace of 80s music was affecting all kinds of artists from Motown to Rock from the previous decade, in not very good ways.

    Now, as for the case of CCR, for example, I have only two early memories from this period -- one is of those T.V. commercials for TIME-LIFE "70s ROCK" compilations that would play 15 second clips of several songs that were included on the cassette/LP set. I seem to remember maybe "Bad Moon Rising" or "Proud Mary" as typical hits that were featured in those spots. The second memory was of John Fogerty's solo music and in particular "Centerfield." I wasn't particularly drawn to the latter (it seemed to be catchy enough to work for the 80s but thats about it) and the former just seemed to me, as a kid, as something very yesterday, and unfortunately (for me) I wrote them off and never gave them a chance. The 70s was just a little too close to take seriously.

    But it seems to me that the 80s were not particularly kind to many bands/singers with origins in the late 60s and 1970s -- Cheap Trick being one example (Without any older siblings, I actually thought they were a new band when I first heard their rendition of "Don't Be Cruel" ca. 1987), but since then I've heard that their stuff from the 70s is actually quite good. And then there is Journey and Foreigner. First contact for me was Steve Perry's hit "Oh Cherry" on Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 in 1984 and I remember not liking it one bit. Or Steve Winwood from Traffic -- I grew to know him through hits such as "Higher Love" or Phil Collins from Genesis. Maybe their older stuff is good, but I was just never inspired to go back and listen to Traffic, Genesis or any of these other bands.

    It took me until the 1990s to get into The Beatles, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin. And more recently Bob Dylan's old stuff.

    But my experience listening to CCR seriously for the first time last night was quite revelatory. It really caught me off guard in a very exciting sort of way.
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  • Gretsch6136
    Gretsch6136 Posts: 80
    edited July 2009
    Hi Norm,

    I'm about 5 years older than you. Creedence were an amazing band. Their true greatness is found in their deceptive simplicity. The songs sound so simply written and arranged that you'd think any joe blow cover band could play them.

    However, the truth is that the devil is in the details. Lacking all sorts of ornamentation and overdubbing, what you are hearing on their records is a band that plays with an instinctive sense of time and groove, and a sort of telepathy between the members. Its easy to play these songs badly, and nigh on impossible to play them dead on right! The vocals are another story. Finding a singer who can cover John Fogerty is virtually impossible!

    Run Through the Jungle is a particular favourite of mine.

    There was a Chronicle Volume 2 that saw release on vinyl - unsure if it ever got on CD, but it mines their albums cuts quite nicely.

    Do yourself a favour and check out John Fogerty's Premonition or Long Road Home live DVD's and CD's. They cover both CCR and solo work. In both instances he's on top of his game and playing with a stellar quality band.


    Now if you really want to do yourself a favour and get blown away by another cooking band at the height of their powers go listen to Exile On Main Street by The Rolling Stones. Recorded in 1972 in the basement of Keith Richard's tax haven mansion on the French Riviera.

    Also go check out some Gram Parsons. Prepare to be blown away!

    Cheers,

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited July 2009
    For those of us in GGs age-grade cohort the 80s were kind of like the DARK AGES in Music...a long drawn out cacophony of the bad and the worse. A very forgettable decade except for some 'minor' bumps.

    People seem to not 'remember' just how influential the 60s and 70s were for "Music"! And just how significant the African-American roots of what became the 60s and 70s were! For me, as a kid growing up....it took a couple of decades to come to terms with how important Motown was, for example. I had trouble identifying with the music. Now "I" understand it much better! Maturity in music appreciation is certainly a part of a true music education and a musical 'life', well lived.

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    edited July 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    CCR is awesome.

    They've got a bunch of titles on SACD...I've been contemplating picking them up.

    Where did you see CCR on SACD? I must get them!!! I have been a fan since the early 70's!:D
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