Yamaha z9 and Lsi speaker

sniper6868
sniper6868 Posts: 15
edited August 2009 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I already have Yamaha Z9 (170x7 + 2x50) and i'm thinking to set up the speaker system with Lsi model: Lsi25 front, LsiC centre, 4 Lsi FX surround, Fxi A4 present and DSW MicroPRO 2000 subwoofer. Does anyone has experience for set up Yamaha Z9 and Lsi model ? please help me. I wonder they work good together without problem ???? I love my Z9 and don't want to change it. Thanks from Sniper
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2009
    sniper, Welcome to CP. That is one of the few AVRs that I would say give it a try, it's a beast of an AVR. While the amp may not provide enough to get everything out of your LSi's they can deliver, I do believe it is capable of handling a full load of LSi's (4 ohm) speakers. If after you have listened to it for a while you feel you are coming up short, look into a good 2 or 3 ch. amp.

    Not sure about driving the pressence sp. though. But 7.1 should be no problem.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited July 2009
    +1 apphd I was writing the same thing and it didn't post for some reason. That AVR is a beast and although I couldn't find a 4 ohm rating for it, I would agree with your advice. Give it a shot and see what happens. I remember a guy awhile back that was using an Onkyo TX-SR806 for the LSi's, and while I would agree that it wouldn't do a very good job, he insisted it worked. The Z9 has plenty of hookups though, including pre-outs for an external amp so if it seems it isn't doing a good enough job add and amp as suggested and call it good. Welcom to Club Polk Sniper.
    HT Rig
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    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


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    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2009
    A couple links:

    http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-RX-Z9/rav229-and-rav17-remote-control

    http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/1004yamaha/

    While Yamaha may not state specifically it can drive 4 ohm loads, as long as you give it lots of room to breath I would agree with the reviews that it can handle the LSi. How well it does it would be up to the listener to decide.
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  • sniper6868
    sniper6868 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    Thanks wutadumsn23 and apphd, affter read the review on ultimateavmag.com, i believe Z9 can drive 4 ohm loads, but i heard Lsi25 needs alot of power, and Z9 running really hot (you can feel it) sometimes it shut down by itself (never happen for me though), so i'm worry how long can Z9 handle the full Lsi system??? would someone test is for me :). Give it a shot and see what happen, sound is not easy for me cause i'm not living in USA, it will take 48 days for shipping from US :(. What should i do now??? Again thanks apphd and wutadumsn23
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited July 2009
    If you can afford it, why not give your system the ability to run at full capability?

    Get external amps. Your receiver is AWESOME, but it would be hard to argue that separate amps wouldn't be better.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • sniper6868
    sniper6868 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    I love the sound of Yamaha Z9 and digital sound processing (DSP) alway bring me more feeling in my music. After i listen to Lsi25 in my friend's house I wonder the Z9 can driven 9.2 Lsi speakers. POLK is now my frist choice for speaker :), i'm consider LSi or RTi, so i need Polk's community give me some advise :), thanks everybody
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2009
    sniper6868 wrote: »
    Thanks wutadumsn23 and apphd, affter read the review on ultimateavmag.com, i believe Z9 can drive 4 ohm loads, but i heard Lsi25 needs alot of power, and Z9 running really hot (you can feel it) sometimes it shut down by itself (never happen for me though), so i'm worry how long can Z9 handle the full Lsi system??? would someone test is for me :). Give it a shot and see what happen, sound is not easy for me cause i'm not living in USA, it will take 48 days for shipping from US :(. What should i do now??? Again thanks apphd and wutadumsn23

    Not sure I'm understanding you with this. Are you saying you have read reports on the Z9 running hot and shutting down? But this has not happened to you, correct? The power supply in the Z9 is pretty stout and probably would run hot with the LSI. Proper ventilation should help with this, maybe even some cooling fans. The LSi25 has a powered woofer so this would help lighten the effort on the Z9, but the LSi do like power. Wait and see if anyone that owns the Z9 and LSi's can comment specifically on this combo.
    Your options to play it safe (understand your distance/shipping issue) would be to stick to 8 ohm speakers or as others have said add an external amp. The amp would help with the Z9 going into protect, but it would still run warm/hot. This would give the power you need but still have the Z9 for a processor.
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  • Hilbert
    Hilbert Posts: 316
    edited July 2009
    Adding a "neutral" amp wouldn't change any of the Z9's lovable qualities; that is, it would still sound like a Yamaha and you'd still have all the A/V processing features.

    I don't know anything about the Z9; maybe it will drive LSis. But if it doesn't, don't hesitate to add an amp.

    What's a neutral amp? My Emotiva XPA-5 is said by its manufacturers to be neutral, and it sounds great, imo, with my Yam 663 and LSi9s, 7s, and C. Others will doubtless chime in; there are many other new and used possibilities.
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    redroses Posts: 1
    edited July 2009
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2009
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    additional amplification will provide several benefits overall to your systems.
    I say yes ....
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited July 2009
    sniper6868 wrote: »
    After i listen to Lsi25 in my friend's house I wonder the Z9 can driven 9.2 Lsi speakers. POLK is now my frist choice for speaker :), i'm consider LSi or RTi, so i need Polk's community give me some advise :), thanks everybody

    What was your friend's setup? What amp, AVR, etc?

    What color were you looking at? Not like it matters because it's a gorgeous speaker regardless...:D
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • sniper6868
    sniper6868 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    Thank everybody. Now i have in mine to build my hometheater. I will give a shot for my Yamaha Z9. The system will be Yamaha Z9 , Lsi25 , LsiC , 2 pair Fxi A6 , Fxi A4 , DSW micro 2000. All the speakers on shipping, i have to wait in 2 weeks. hope i don't need to add an amp 3 chanel. thanks again for all
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2009
    Congrats and enjoy. Report back here on how well the Z9 does with the LSi.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited July 2009
    apphd wrote: »
    Congrats and enjoy. Report back here on how well the Z9 does with the LSi.


    +1 that thing is a beast, I am curious to see how it does. Either way those LSi's will need an amp to run at their full potential, regardless of the AVR. Save up some cash and do that AVR and those speakers a favor, lol.
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • sniper6868
    sniper6868 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    I'm almost forgot , what's cable i should use for my system ???
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited July 2009
    sniper6868 wrote: »
    I'm almost forgot , what's cable i should use for my system ???

    Cable to connect which components?
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited July 2009
    If you are talking about speaker wire I would recommend some 14g wire as long as the runs are shorter then 50 feet. If the runs get over 50 feet then I would suggest a heavier gauge, but 14 all around would still work fine. Check Monoprice, and Bluejeans cable. They have good quality cables at pretty good prices and lots of fellow polkies use/recommend them. Links included, lol. they also have sub woofer cables if you are in the market for one of those too.

    -Jeff

    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/

    http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • sniper6868
    sniper6868 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    I mean cable for speaker, for the LSi25 and LsiC is (4ohm), Would someone give me which brand is good for Lsi speaker ? Thanks
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2009
    This is a subject of lots of debate. My choice is a quality oxygen free copper stranded. Monoprice being my first and most times last stop, with your location not sure if you would be better looking more local/domestic. For LSi being 4 ohm I would not consider anything less than 14 AWG (2.08 mm²) if you start approaching 40 ft (12m) I would bump it up to 12 AWG (3.31 mm²).
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  • sniper6868
    sniper6868 Posts: 15
    edited July 2009
    Thanks apphd, I will get Oxygen free copper standed cable for LSi. Please give me your idea for the cable of surround speaker as well. And today the dealler just told me they don't have any DSWmicroPRO 2000 subwoofer in stock, can i get DSW pro 600 sub ??? which one is better choice ???
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    edited August 2009
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited August 2009
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