Anyone familiar with DENON Turntables?

nooshinjohn
nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
edited July 2009 in Electronics
My Denon DP-52f does not respond when using the Start button on the front of the table. The system picks up the tonearm but will not move to the record automatically. As I type this, I was listening to an LP, and the tonearm bounced a couple times on the record, without any sort of input whatsoever and returned to the arm rest... I believe I am looking at some sort of logic failure.:confused:
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    any chance denon might help
    saw this but need to register with a valid product...

    http://www.usa.denon.com/Ownersclub.asp
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited July 2009
    Well.. I opened it up and found a multitude of troubles. The guy that had it prior to me swapped out the RCA's and did a bit of damage to the input board, and when I gently moved them I tore two traces from the board. Thank God I know a little something, and was able to solder in a new set of RCA's, there were also a few disconnected wires underneath some electrical tape. I reconnected everything in hopes that this would solve the troubles. while I was successful correcting the damping for lowering the tonearm to the platter, and the problem of the tonearm bouncing across the record, the problem of the arm actually going to the record remains. I believe there is some sort of logic failure in the start circuit. Anyone have any ideas?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited July 2009
    lol... I just got this one, and paid 200 bucks for it:eek: Thats what I get for going vintage I guess.:(
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited July 2009
    Good luck. If you really want to keep that table which happens to be the most complex table Denon made, try to find a good tech that has experience fixing that table.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited July 2009
    ESavinon wrote: »
    Good luck. If you really want to keep that table which happens to be the most complex table Denon made, try to find a good tech that has experience fixing that table.
    is it worth sinking another 100 bucks into?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited July 2009
    It is one of Denon's best. It may set you back more than a bill to fix.
    Parts are non existent unless canibalized from another 52.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    IMHO.... I would look for another table but keep the Denon for parts.

    if you find a factory manual and schematic that will help with the diagnoses but
    you may still need to obtain replacement parts.
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    determine the blue book value .

    Good time to find another table
    but keep the Denon just in case another shows up.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited July 2009
    I am going to take it into the shop and see if they might be able to come up with a work around like bypassing the full auto functions... if they cannot fix it or come up with a workable solution, there will be almost 200 lps for sale at unbelievable prices once I copy them to disc and convert to a media server.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    Have you seen manual turntables that have multiple tonearms like three of them.

    maybe just add a tonearm on an opposite corner and you are back in operation,
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited July 2009
    I do not like the looks of such tables but it may be an option for replacing the one that already exists. I bought this one because I love the way it looks, and its performance was a secondary consideration. That said, the sound of this table was beyond anything I have heard before from a table. I know there are better out there, but cannot afford to take vinyl to the next level lest I were to part with My TL's or the Sunfire...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    mythological creature the hydra
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  • WastelandWand'r
    WastelandWand'r Posts: 466
    edited July 2009
    NJ,
    You might want to look into a turntable that is a little more trouble free then that Denon unit. Perhaps a Denon 3910? The cartridges are a lot cheaper, and I have yet to break out stylus cleaner for it. It seems impervious to skate, the vertical tracking angle appears to be set at the factory, and it plays CD-R's.
    Just my 2 pesos.
    Nathan
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited July 2009
    jvc wrote: »
    mythological creature the hydra

    Does that play LPs in Quadraphonic sound?

    cnh
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    now that's a blast from the past...

    when i see folks with multi-channel amplifiers / receivers 4 , 5, 6 channels
    reminds me of the quadraphonic, dbx, surround sound, digital or analog delay
    attempts years gone by.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,556
    edited July 2009
    deleted.... please see post in the wanted section
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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