newbie question...

thecyclops

so heres my question...i have a 7.1 reciever/setup(currently 5.1),with yamaha bookshelf rears(i am selling though,not because they dont sound good,but just want all polks),i have polk tsi 400 front mains,and polk csr center,but i know the csr isnt"voice matched"with the tsi,...im getting ready to invest more money(the littler the better)to make full 7.1,all polks,should i get rid of the csr as well,and get a tsi series center,and rears/surrounds?or can i get the r series (the r150's)rears/surrounds(alot cheaper!!!)and keep the csr center without everything being "voice matched"???yes im a newwwwbbbb...thanx.

curved

Keep your TSi400's up front and get the CS20 (if you have room otherwise get the CS10).

Get the OWM3 from Polkdirect on Ebay. I just got a pair for $70 shipped.

thecyclops

curved wrote: »

Keep your TSi400's up front and get the CS20 (if you have room otherwise get the CS10).

Get the OWM3 from Polkdirect on Ebay. I just got a pair for $70 shipped.

thank you...so imguessing voice matching is not a myth,lol...do you have a link for the owm3???and could i still utilize my csr in the system some how???really dont wanna have to sell if i dont have to...

Conradicles

slowpolky...your killin' us.

thecyclops

Conradicles wrote: »

slowpolky...your killin' us.

i knowwww.............im so ashamed of myself...

thecyclops

thecyclops wrote: »

thank you...so imguessing voice matching is not a myth,lol...do you have a link for the owm3???and could i still utilize my csr in the system some how???really dont wanna have to sell if i dont have to...

the sad part is i bought the csr,and the tsi400's at the same time!!!why oh why didnt the sales person at hhgregg tell me this...but i did ge t a great deal on'em...400 for the pair,50 for the csr...

Solumnus

when did you buy the CSR? Bring it back, you must have 30 days or 90 days or something. Either that , if it sounds good together to you, then keep em and use em.

thecyclops

Solumnus wrote: »

when did you buy the CSR? Bring it back, you must have 30 days or 90 days or something. Either that , if it sounds good together to you, then keep em and use em.

no cant take it back,bought in feb...yes they sound good to me,but compared to what???i mean the yamahas i have sound good to me,but theres no way they could compliment/sound the same as the polks,right???
do some people use difffrent brands,or series of a brand together in there ht setup???

thecyclops

Solumnus wrote: »

when did you buy the CSR? Bring it back, you must have 30 days or 90 days or something. Either that , if it sounds good together to you, then keep em and use em.

if i bought they cs10 as my center to match the tsi400,as one poster suggested,if i bought another csr,could i use those 2 as my sorrounds???or would that be...well.....STUPID?

cnh

I don't know what conradicles is referring to...but I do hope that you are not 'slowpolky'?

As for running different speakers...sure lots of people do...and the CSR is NOT that BAD a match with the TSI-series (its just that the CS2/20 is a lot better center...). You can keep the Yamahas and just use them as surrounds....timbre matching is 'less' important in the back!

Benefit of the doubt on this one?

cnh

thecyclops

cnh wrote: »

I don't know what conradicles is referring to...but I do hope that you are not 'slowpolky'?

As for running different speakers...sure lots of people do...and the CSR is NOT that BAD a match with the TSI-series (its just that the CS2/20 is a lot better center...). You can keep the Yamahas and just use them as surrounds....timbre matching is 'less' important in the back!

Benefit of the doubt on this one?

cnh

THATS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is it really that important???so...its more important upfront???not so much in the rears.gotcha...and as for your personal opinion on yamaha speakers???(ns-6490)

kawizx9r

I have before in the past (for temporary solutions). I was strictly into 2 channel listening with my RT towers and then got a good deal on some Pioneer surround speakers+center. The center in itself was a little off, being that it wasnt timbre matched but it worked well for me for a year til I replaced them with polks all around. Well since my center blew out Im back to using that old Pioneer as my center, and with a little bit of tweaking on my AVR, Im pleased with the temporary solution. Its all about how you like it imo.

kawizx9r

cnh wrote: »

I don't know what conradicles is referring to...but I do hope that you are not 'slowpolky'?

It shouldn't be him imo, I mean I vaguely remember him bragging about a csi5 something center and was desperately trying to sell the smaller version of it to other Polk members, the grammar may be off the same way but the gears different unless he lied to us :mad:

thecyclops

kawizx9r wrote: »

It shouldn't be him imo, I mean I vaguely remember him bragging about a csi5 something center and was desperately trying to sell the smaller version of it to other Polk members, the grammar may be off the same way but the gears different unless he lied to us :mad:

ok now im confused...is "slowpolky"a poster???i just registered for this site lika an hour ago...and i dont wanna sell anything if i can get away with it,lol

cnh

Yeah slow is a member who sometimes gets a bit too shrill...to put it nicely.

Sorry if we've all become too paranoid!

cnh

mikejodi

I am going from LS 90 Fullsize to RM85 Satalite I need opinions

thecyclops

kawizx9r wrote: »

It shouldn't be him imo, I mean I vaguely remember him bragging about a csi5 something center and was desperately trying to sell the smaller version of it to other Polk members, the grammar may be off the same way but the gears different unless he lied to us :mad:

i thought he was calling me slowpolky cuz i dont know alot bout ht/im a newb(like im "slow")...jeeez i am a newb,haha

kawizx9r

No no thecyclops, you'll find in time to come this forum contributes a great wealth of knowledge in all aspects of audio, and the person we were referring to was another member that, well lets just say he didnt agree when others disagreed with him.

cnh

mikejodi wrote: »

I am going from LS 90 Fullsize to RM85 Satalite I need opinions

Hi Mike,

What I'd do is start a Separate thread on this and give us some more detail. Because I don't know what you're asking...opinions on?...the speakers....how to power them....how to set them up....what sub to use, etc.

To put it politely, you should try to keep threads somewhat related to what the original poster is asking or offering.

cnh

thecyclops

kawizx9r wrote: »

No no thecyclops, you'll find in time to come this forum contributes a great wealth of knowledge in all aspects of audio, and the person we were referring to was another member that, well lets just say he didnt agree when others disagreed with him.

haha,ok thanx man...yeah i was REALLY torn on sinking mo money in my system.but from the answers i got i think im gonna buy the cs10...sell the yamahas...and maybe you can answer this(i asked earlier with no takers)would it be wise to buy another csr,and essentially use 2centers as my rears,so i wouldnt have to sell my csr as well???

kawizx9r

Personally, I'd go for an actual pair of bookshelves or the sort for rears as opposed to 2 centers. Maybe cost difference/etc considering center channels are sold individually. If you were going to run 6.1, then Id suggest using a center as your rear, but for 7.1, I'd stick with traditional speakers but thats just an opinion. Whats your budget, could give us a better idea of what to recommend, and what would fit your system to keep it at the very least somewhat timbre-matched all around.

mikejodi

I was lucky to get this far!!!!!!!!!!!
I have LS 90 mathing center and LS/FX surrounds I might have to go to RM85 Satalite so I need opinions on difference from fullsize to RM85 Satalite. I will not be able to crank it up like I used to so 8X10 room is what I have

mikejodi

I have a 125W 8" sub for now

thecyclops

kawizx9r wrote: »

Personally, I'd go for an actual pair of bookshelves or the sort for rears as opposed to 2 centers. Maybe cost difference/etc considering center channels are sold individually. If you were going to run 6.1, then Id suggest using a center as your rear, but for 7.1, I'd stick with traditional speakers but thats just an opinion. Whats your budget, could give us a better idea of what to recommend, and what would fit your system to keep it at the very least somewhat timbre-matched all around.

CHEAP!!!!!!!!LOL!!!....no timbre matching is most important to me at this point(and i guess if you think the csr is sufficient i may keep,dunno?)but i have found the r150's for 99 a pair w/free shipping...but again im looking for complete and utter uniformity

kawizx9r

thecyclops wrote: »

do you have a link for the owm3???

http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/tsi/index.php?s=tsi400#owm3 hope this helps. Just wanted to post it since someone else referred you.

comfortablycurt

Don't worry about the slowpolky comment.;) Slow is another poster here that was recently causing a bit of an uproar with quite a few members...he seems to have disappeared though now.

Welcome to Club Polk!:)




I'd at least get a CS2 or CS20 for the front soundstage. Either one will match up to the TSi400's very well. I'd pass on the CS1 or CS10 though...the smaller center channels won't do as good of a job keeping up with your towers. The center channel is really the most important speaker in a home theater setup. The center carries over 50% of a movies soundtrack, along with the majority of the dialogue...you definitely don't want to skimp on the center.

To reiterate what cnh said, timbre matching your front soundstage is a lot more crucial than timbre matching the surrounds to the fronts. There are definitely big gains to be had with a fully timbre matched setup, but you can still make an awesome system without it.

You'd be fine using the Yamaha's as surrounds for the time being. You could also pick up another CSR and use them as surrounds if you wanted to, but personally, I'd sell it and get some TSi/Monitor surrounds.

Here's my suggestion...sell the CSR and get a CS2/CS20, and use the Yammies as surrounds for a while.

The ideal surrounds for that system would be the TSi100's or TSi200's. The OWM3's or OWN5's would work very well too, and are quite a bit more compact, and more versatile as far as placement goes.

Either replace the surrounds and surround backs all in one go, or get one pair for surrounds and move the Yam's to the back. Then eventually replace the Yam's with a second pair.

mikejodi

Oh 5.1 System

thecyclops

kawizx9r wrote: »

http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/tsi/index.php?s=tsi400#owm3 hope this helps. Just wanted to post it since someone else referred you.

kool,thanx for thelink...BTW,both the tsi,and the csr claim to have have dynamic balance drivers(whatever that is),so how are they not matched???

kawizx9r

Different tweeters, different crossovers, enclosures that re-create either "bright sound" or something else considered "warm". A wide variety of things cause them to not be identically timbre matched, but then again some people hear it better than others, as long as youre happy with it thats what should matter most.

thecyclops

comfortablycurt wrote: »

Don't worry about the slowpolky comment.;) Slow is another poster here that was recently causing a bit of an uproar with quite a few members...he seems to have disappeared though now.

Welcome to Club Polk!:)




I'd at least get a CS2 or CS20 for the front soundstage. Either one will match up to the TSi400's very well. I'd pass on the CS1 or CS10 though...the smaller center channels won't do as good of a job keeping up with your towers. The center channel is really the most important speaker in a home theater setup. The center carries over 50% of a movies soundtrack, along with the majority of the dialogue...you definitely don't want to skimp on the center.

To reiterate what cnh said, timbre matching your front soundstage is a lot more crucial than timbre matching the surrounds to the fronts. There are definitely big gains to be had with a fully timbre matched setup, but you can still make an awesome system without it.

You'd be fine using the Yamaha's as surrounds for the time being. You could also pick up another CSR and use them as surrounds if you wanted to, but personally, I'd sell it and get some TSi/Monitor surrounds.

Here's my suggestion...sell the CSR and get a CS2/CS20, and use the Yammies as surrounds for a while.

The ideal surrounds for that system would be the TSi100's or TSi200's. The OWM3's or OWN5's would work very well too, and are quite a bit more compact, and more versatile as far as placement goes.

Either replace the surrounds and surround backs all in one go, or get one pair for surrounds and move the Yam's to the back. Then eventually replace the Yam's with a second pair.

jeez mr slowpolker has som enemies,hehehehe!!!thanx for the nice post too,nice advice...looks like mo money for the system...if i could only get 1 of you guys to explain the importants of this stuff to my fiancee...