Good quality speaker wire at affordable price?

digitalvideo
digitalvideo Posts: 983
I am looking for very good quality speaker wire for my 7.1 surround speaker system that doesnt bust my bank. Is there a speaker wire company out there that is sort of like what Bluejeans cable is for HDMI where they put out a very good cable/wire at a good price?

How important is it to have high quality speaker wire and can you notice a big difference in how your system performs between a $50 wires and $300 dollar wires?
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2009
    Yes there is and it all depends on how good your equipment is.

    What equipent do you have ?

    A lot of people will recommend Signal Cable, I just tried one of their Analog 2 ICs for my TT and I am very impressed.

    A friend brought his Pro-Ject II SE tube phono stage over yeaterday and we sample 4 cables between Phono Stage and Pre-Amp. There were definately differences.

    Now, if take a HTiB I suspect you could put expensive excellent cables on the system and tell no difference.

    I equate it to taking a economy car and putting expensive tires on it and running premium gas, you would not be able to tell a difference.

    Take a sports car and you can tell the diffence in cheap, good and best tires as well as low, meduim and high grade gas.
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    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
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  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited July 2009
    Your ears. Your budget. Start with something decent and don't overpay for Monster.

    I'd go back to BJC for speaker wire. I use it all around the house. You'll find a lot of Signal Cable fans here. I've never used SC speaker wire, but I can recommend the interconnects (Analog II) and power cables (Magic Power).
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    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

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    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited July 2009
    Are you going to be running any of the wire in-wall?
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited July 2009
    My home theater surround sound setup is in full HDMI and is used primarly for tv/sports movies/bluray/dvd.

    My home theater 7.1 surround system is:

    Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro-111fd plasma
    Pioneer Elite SC 05 reciever
    Oppo BDP-83fd
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 400 7 channel amp

    Center speaker - Polk CSi A6
    Front tower floor speakers L/R - Polk RTI A9
    Side speakers - Polk FXI A6
    Rear Speakers - Polk FXI A6
    Sub - SVS PB12 Ultra
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited July 2009
    Also what are your views and opinions on the Bluejeans BJC 5000ue or Twelve White speaker cable? How do they compare to Signal Cable?
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited July 2009
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    Are you going to be running any of the wire in-wall?

    Nope, I have the wire on the ground right up against the wall around the room underneath and behind furniture with matching wall wire covers over it. The wire covers are the same color as the paint on the wall so it looks good and is hard to notice, I had a friend who does interior decorating do that for me.
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited July 2009
    My home theater surround sound setup is in full HDMI and is used primarly for tv/sports movies/bluray/dvd.

    My home theater 7.1 surround system is:

    Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro-111fd plasma
    Pioneer Elite SC 05 reciever
    Oppo BDP-83fd
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 400 7 channel amp

    Center speaker - Polk CSi A6
    Front tower floor speakers L/R - Polk RTI A9
    Side speakers - Polk FXI A6
    Rear Speakers - Polk FXI A6
    Sub - SVS PB12 Ultra

    Blue Jeans Cables should do you just fine
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited July 2009
    The Belden is an excellent cable. I use it for my rears and am very happy with it.
  • jacob.simpson
    jacob.simpson Posts: 481
    edited July 2009
    I am looking for very good quality speaker wire for my 7.1 surround speaker system that doesnt bust my bank. Is there a speaker wire company out there that is sort of like what Bluejeans cable is for HDMI where they put out a very good cable/wire at a good price?

    How important is it to have high quality speaker wire and can you notice a big difference in how your system performs between a $50 wires and $300 dollar wires?
    www.monoprice.com
    one of the best priced for a good quality stuff, has got very good CS i have dealt with them couple of times and returned some stuff when i had ordered wrongly you can try them.
    No Affiliations.
  • Freak When C
    Freak When C Posts: 231
    edited July 2009
    I got some banana plugs from monoprice for my speaker-wire and noticed that when I insert the plug into the jacks on my amp and the jacks on my speakers, that even after I tighten the plastic housings all the way down I can still pull the banana plug out of the jack. Same thing happens on another set of speaker wire I have equipped with banana plugs. Is this normal? Shouldn't tightening the plastic housing on the jacks keep the plugs tight and unable to be pulled out?
  • Freak When C
    Freak When C Posts: 231
    edited July 2009
    C'mon guys, somebody has to know if banana plugs are supposed to be able to be tightened down onto the jack so that they can not be pulled out. I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask so sorry for the hijack. But I'm able to remove the plug from the jack despite tightening the plastic housing all the way down. Is that normal? Someone, please? :confused:
  • Solumnus
    Solumnus Posts: 48
    edited July 2009
    C'mon guys, somebody has to know if banana plugs are supposed to be able to be tightened down onto the jack so that they can not be pulled out. I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask so sorry for the hijack. But I'm able to remove the plug from the jack despite tightening the plastic housing all the way down. Is that normal? Someone, please? :confused:

    Yes this is normal. Banana plugs are meant to be inserted and removed. They are never permanently installed. Now, stop thred hijacking.:eek:

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  • gmb2428
    gmb2428 Posts: 40
    edited July 2009
    ive bought all my hdmi and speaker wire cables from monoprice.com. there are great, and a 4' cat 3a hdmi cable for 3 bucks is a killer deal!!!
  • Freak When C
    Freak When C Posts: 231
    edited July 2009
    Solumnus wrote: »
    Yes this is normal. Banana plugs are meant to be inserted and removed. They are never permanently installed. Now, stop thred hijacking.:eek:

    I realize they're not meant to be "permanently installed" :rolleyes: Of course they would need to be able to be inserted and removed. How else would you connect and disconnect speakers, otherwise? That is NOT what I'm asking.

    After I insert the banana plug into the receptacle (the jacks on the amp and rear of the speakers) and I then tighten down the plastic housing, the plug can still be easily removed WITHOUT loosening the plastic housing. In other words, tightening the plastic piece on the amp jacks and speaker jacks that accept banana plugs seems to do nothing. Is that normal?
  • jacob.simpson
    jacob.simpson Posts: 481
    edited July 2009
    You are absolutely confused, they are not meant to act in the manner what you describe, Banana plugs whether you tighten the plastic or not will plug in and come out easily, the whole purpose is to have a snug fit and be able to remove when required, not the way you think, kind of lock mechanism.
  • Freak When C
    Freak When C Posts: 231
    edited July 2009
    You are absolutely confused.

    I am not confused at all. I thought perhaps they're actually designed to work this way, but was not sure. I'm merely asking for verification that they're supposed to be able to be disconnected with the plastic housing tightened down, or if they're supposed to lock the way my interconnect cables do.

    I just was asking if it's normal, that's all. Thanks. :)
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited July 2009
    Your banana plugs are behaving normally. Tightening or loosening the plastic nut on the binding post doesn't make a difference.

    They do make locking banana plugs as well, if you're looking for a more secure connection. The GLS locking bananas are high quality, and don't break the bank.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/28-Locking-Banana-Speaker-Cable-Plugs-GLS-Audio-P-BL28_W0QQitemZ350154366730QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5186d39f0a&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|293%3A1|294%3A30
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  • Freak When C
    Freak When C Posts: 231
    edited July 2009
    Nice to know my bananas aint giving me the slip. I noticed one of my plugs was kind of not inserted all the way which is how I discovered they weren't locked in. But thanks for clearing up my "confusion". I just wasn't sure they were supposed to work that way.

    Those locking ones look nice. I just might snag em. I really like how they work. "As you screw the shell on, it presses against the locking bar and spreads the internal spike into the tip" Awesome! Thanks Curt. ;)
  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited July 2009
    Why didn't you just google "Banana plugs"? That would have explained it all in about 30 seconds.
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    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • Freak When C
    Freak When C Posts: 231
    edited July 2009
    Because I'm lazy? :)

    I did Google "banana plugs slips out of jack" and didn't really find what I needed. I always try to be too precise with Google, for some reason. Much easier to come and ask the experts here on CP :D (but I did try Google first).
  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited July 2009
    The fact that the speaker terminals screw in and out has nothing to do with tightening the connection unless you are using bare wire or spades. For banana connectors you should tighten the jack all the way down first, and then insert the banana. The bananas just push in and pull out. They are held secure by the springs clips on the banana connector, or by compression of the connector. Some fit tighter than others. If they fit too loose, you can sometimes use a pointed object and pry the spring clips apart a little. Or in the case of BFA types, you can insert something close to the inner diameter of the connector and try and pry it open a bit.
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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited August 2009
    One word - Monoprice. You can usually catch the wire on sale if it is the daily deal for a very good price. They have good prices on banana plugs as well.
  • 1fastz28
    1fastz28 Posts: 122
    edited August 2009
    i have monster cable everything, speaker, hdmi, digital coax, sub cable etc. but i get them like 75% through work :o
    setup
    Panasonic 46pz85
    Polk RTi A9's
    Polk CSi A6
    FXi A6's
    Energy s12.3 sub
    Denon 3808ci
    Pioneer elite dv-79
    Monster 1850
    Denon dp500m w/ grado green
    PS3,XBOX 360, NES
  • rtart
    rtart Posts: 833
    edited August 2009
    OK, don't laugh (or yell!) I have used 12 gauge landscape lighting wire. Yep, the black stuff you find at HD or Lowe's. It is a LOT cheaper than similar gauge speaker wire, and if it will hold up outside or buried, it will be OK in my HT.
    My 7.4.4 DIY 4k Home Theater:
    Polk LSiM 707 L-C-R, LSiM702 side surrounds, LSiM 705 rears
    Polk LSiM 702s x 4 on the Ceiling Atmos speakers
    2 x SVS PB12/Plus 2's
    Denon X3700H
    Emotiva XPA11 Gen 3
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    Panasonic UB-420 4k player
    HD-A35 HD DVD
    Oppo BD-103D for hirez audio
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,119
    edited August 2009
    I use coat hangers, they work well and are cheap.
  • ahorvitz
    ahorvitz Posts: 235
    edited August 2009
    rtart wrote: »
    OK, don't laugh (or yell!) I have used 12 gauge landscape lighting wire. Yep, the black stuff you find at HD or Lowe's. It is a LOT cheaper than similar gauge speaker wire, and if it will hold up outside or buried, it will be OK in my HT.

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    Pioneer Elite SC-05, Rotel RMB-1075
    RT800i, CS400i, RT35i, FXi50, Klipsch RSW-12
    Pioneer Elite DV F-07, PS3, Wii
    Monster HTS 3500 MKII
    SC Analog 2, BJC Speaker Wire
    Samsung HL61A650

    2nd Rig

    Pioneer Elite VSX-56txi, Pioneer Elite DV-47a
    Cambridge Soundworks, MC150 (Center), MC100 x 4, Mirage LF-150

    Office

    Adcom GTP-400, Adcom GFA-535II, (need a quality CDP), RT55i