Review: RTi A1

nadams
nadams Posts: 5,877
edited July 2009 in Speakers
Okay, so I'm actually just starting this thread to remind myself to write a full review of the RTi A1. These are the speakers that I "won" by hosting a gathering here at my place. I tried to raffle them, I really did... but the attendees would have no such thing. I really am grateful to Polk, for providing the speakers, and to the folks who attended, for being so gracious as to give me these speakers without a second thought. I wasn't even going to be in the drawing!

Right now, the RTi's are perched on top of my SDA 2's. And I have to say, with a proper set of stands to get them a little lower, I don't know if I'd miss the SDA's. :o

Blasphemy, I know! I'm a vintage Polk guy, myself. I've owned: Monitor 5jr's, Monitor 10's and my current SDA2's. But let me tell you, hooked up to the same Adcom 545 and Hafler Pre as the SDA2's, these RTi's really sing. I got the opportunity to listen to them bi-amped with a pair of heavily modded Knight mono tube amps, and a pair of Adcom 565 monos, but the 545 does just fine.

These speakers excel at detail the way a pair of SDA's never could. At least not my SDA's. The RTi's pick out every little detail of any song you throw at them. No, they can't reach down into the sub 50hz range like the big SDA's can, but, give them credit! They only have a 5.25" driver!!!

I'm listening to them right now with Gentle Giant - "Three Friends" on vinyl, and am simply blown away at the detail and how low they actually can go, with such small drivers. I feel guilty to say.... I actually enjoy these with certain music more than I enjoy my vintage Polks. Midrange and highs are just so much more enjoyable. With a sub, I think I'd never miss my SDA's. :(
Ludicrous gibs!
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  • renowilliams
    renowilliams Posts: 920
    edited July 2009
    Shhh......don't let the other SDA owners hear you say that. What your saying borders closely to blasphemy. I know what you mean though, for me music lives in the mids and the RTI speakers do a great job there.
    "They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde


    Pre-Amp: Anthem AVM 20
    Amp: Carver TFM-35
    Amp: Rotel RB-870BX
    Fronts : SDA 1B w/ RDO-194s
    T.V.:Plasma TC-P54G25
    Bluray: Oppo BDP-93
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,484
    edited July 2009
    :rolleyes:Sorry, but I gotta call BS on that...
    Could it be that your SDA's are missing a couple drivers in each cabinet?

    j/k.... I am surprised that they rate so highly as for there to even be a comparison made between the two. I will have to consider them when I get around to a bedroom rig. Thanks for the review.:)


    John
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,143
    edited July 2009
    My guess is that most folks who own the RTi A1 have no clue that they can sound sooo good because they never feed them good amplification. I have been guilty of it in the past as well as now.

    Glad you enjoy the little guys. Polk Audio does it again!
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited July 2009
    Hi Tim (Reno),

    Well, Noah is a long time SDA owner as well as the other Polks he mentions above.

    That's some awesome praise for a tweeter that often feels like someone is scratching a chalk board to me? The RTIs are known to have an 'excess' of detail in that tweet.

    I think the real question would be how do they stack up against and RDO-194? As I remember Noah...and I'm just getting my ears on the SL2000 myself....you're still running the SLs in your SDA's. Might that be a factor here? I don't know. I'm just asking other members who have them to weigh in.

    As for me, with the exception of the Rti-A9s I find most Rtis too bright for my tastes.

    But, hey, some people like that! All I know is that when I hear things 'live' they are not bright but more laid back. But I do agree that the SL2000s are not the most 'detailed' tweet I've heard. So that is probably what you're hearing!

    I am glad you're enjoying those!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited July 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    Hi Tim (Reno),

    Well, Noah is a long time SDA owner as well as the other Polks he mentions above.

    That's some awesome praise for a tweeter that often feels like someone is scratching a chalk board to me? The RTIs are known to have an 'excess' of detail in that tweet.

    I think the real question would be how do they stack up against and RDO-194? As I remember Noah...and I'm just getting my ears on the SL2000 myself....you're still running the SLs in your SDA's. Might that be a factor here? I don't know. I'm just asking other members who have them to weigh in.

    As for me, with the exception of the Rti-A9s I find most Rtis too bright for my tastes.

    But, hey, some people like that! All I know is that when I hear things 'live' they are not bright but more laid back. But I do agree that the SL2000s are not the most 'detailed' tweet I've heard. So that is probably what you're hearing!

    I am glad you're enjoying those!

    cnh


    Be nice now...:p

    Different sounds for different tastes.

    Each Polk series have oddities that don't appeal to everyone - take the LSi tweeters - some would say that they are sooo laid back as to be asleep under the covers. ;)

    I'm one of those rare breed that had LSi7s and decided to go with the RTiA3s for that high end 'sparkle'. :p

    If someone has the opportunity to do a fair up comparison and likes what they hear - then it is all good, right?

    Geez - Gentle Giant eh? That goes WAY back....I've got Three Friends and Free Hand on vinyl.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited July 2009
    Whatever was done to the A series tweeter, whether it be crossover or cabinet, it's much more listenable than the previous rev. I got a chance to put A3s on top of my 1Cs (sound familiar) and was very impressed. They are a very nice sounding speaker. I can't remember which amp I had them on... might have been Luxman or Adcom GFA 555. I liked them alot. I didn't like them as well as SDAs, which do have a more laid back sound, with the detail spread across a far larger soundstage. The A3s had more edge to every intrument, great for imaging, but not as organic or natural sounding. I also heard them vs some older NHTs, some Brit bookshelves I used to own (can't remember the name, but decent) and LS 50s. They wiped the floor with the other books and I preferred the LS50s for their smoother and bassier presentation, but it was close.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited July 2009
    I was impressed by them. Hard to do.
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited July 2009
    With some material, the tweeters are a bit high. The Gentle Giant albums seem to have been mastered a little softer, so they work a bit better with these. I think in terms of grittiness, they're probably right along the same line as the SL-2000's that are in my SDA's. What the SDA's have going for them is tons more active driver area, so the increase in lower frequencies drown out the tweeters a bit.

    The RTi A1's don't have that advantage, so unless the material is mastered soft, they're going to sound a little bright. For some material, I drop the high frequency dial on the pre back a notch to tone it down.
    Ludicrous gibs!
  • camel_89si
    camel_89si Posts: 43
    edited July 2009
    personally i love my rti-a1's. they may be a little bright to some, but it really doesn't bother me too much unless i'm blasting something such as Metallica's newest album, Death Magnetic, which, is almost painful to listen to loudly on any speaker (gotta love the loudness wars...). and yea i know i'm not feeding mine near enough power right now, but they still sound really good, and i can't wait to get a better receiver in the near future! and then one day possibly a nice amp to go with!
    Receiver: Yamaha RX-V863
    Center: PolkAudio CSi-A6
    Fronts: PolkAudio RTi-A1
    Surrounds: PolkAudio RTi-A1
    Subwoofer: Emotiva Ultra Sub 12
    TV: Toshiba 46" 1080p 120hz LCD
    Blu-Ray, DVD & Gaming: Playstation 3
    Logitech Harmony One Remote
  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited July 2009
    what are your listening room dimension size ?
    have you tried different room positioning and heights.
    also different gear.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited July 2009
    Don't small speakers have good 'imaging' mostly because of their 'size'? What one speaker company used to call 'point source'?

    I remember a cheap acoustic suspension set of KLH 5" two ways I had that imaged like crazy! Better than speakers that cost hundreds more. But there were other shortcomings there...

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]