Denon 4308 Ci (7.1 Ch) + Sunfire (5Ch). [ SBR/SBL + RS/LS ]

Posts: 991
edited June 2009 in Speakers
It is convenient to use the Sunfire capacity DUAL RCA INPUTS (SEE ATTACHED).
Connect outlets SBR / SBL (DENON 7.1 - 4308Ci) - RS/LS (SUNFIRE 5 Ch).
Connect the amplifier in the signal to take advantage of this channel and the best effects separate input signal and thus let the Sunfire with the speakers handle the mixture




01) DENON AVR-4308CI: Advanced 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH/ 3.1+2+2 CH A/V Home Theater /MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking and WiFi/170 watts x 7 channels
02) SUNFIRE Grand Signature - Bob Carver's
03) OPPO DV-980H 1080p Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI and 7.1CH Audio
04) DENON DVD-2500BTCI: Blu-ray Disc™ DVD/CD Digital Player/Transport (change for a OPPO BDP-83 Blu-ray Disc Player will be available soon)
05) HITACHI P55T501. 55" HD1080 Plasma HDTV
06) POLKAUDIO LSiC (Center speaker)
07) POLKAUDIO LSi15 LEFT (Front speaker)
08) POLKAUDIO LSi15 RIGHT (Front speaker)
09) POLKAUDIO LSif/x LEFT (Surround speaker)
10) POLKAUDIO LSif/x RIGHT (Surround speaker)
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  • Posts: 991
    edited June 2009
    IMO: Possibly....
    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
  • Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    Bernal,

    I'm not following this? It seems you're telling us that you're running a Sufire amp off the pre-outs on a Denon? Is that what you mean to say?

    Because that is what one would do if one were using external amplification?

    cnh
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  • Posts: 1,305
    edited June 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    Bernal,

    I'm not following this? It seems you're telling us that you're running a Sufire amp off the pre-outs on a Denon? Is that what you mean to say?

    Because that is what one would do if one were using external amplification?

    cnh

    He has a prior thread with the same diagram, I didn't get what he was trying to do either.

    He has two outputs from the receiver going to the same channel on the amp, I don't know if thats even feasable. I have a Sunfire amp and I don't think this wiring arrangement will do any damage but I'm not going to try it. And what for, what possible benifit could be gained by this setup...........:confused::confused::confused:

    Jimmy
  • Posts: 991
    edited June 2009
    jimmydep wrote: »
    He has a prior thread with the same diagram, I didn't get what he was trying to do either.

    He has two outputs from the receiver going to the same channel on the amp, I don't know if thats even feasable. I have a Sunfire amp and I don't think this wiring arrangement will do any damage but I'm not going to try it. And what for, what possible benifit could be gained by this setup...........:confused::confused::confused:

    Jimmy


    Theory.

    It is an idea that I have read the manuals.

    It was a question of time. The effect. Combining the surround and surround back channels in a channel on the amplifier

    "Another option that is becoming more common on 7.1 channel receivers is the use of Bi-amping. How this works is that if you have front channel Speakers that have separate speaker connections for the midrange/tweeters and the woofers (I am not referring to the subwoofer, but the woofers in your front speakers).

    You can reassign the amplifiers running the 6th and 7th channels to your front channels. Then enables you to retain a full 5.1 channel setup, but still add two additional channels of amplification to your front left and right speakers.

    Using the separate speakers connections for the 6th and 7th channel on your bi-ampable speakers, you can double the power delivered to your front left and right channels. Your front mid-range/tweeters end up running off of the main L/R channels and your front speakers woofers running off your 6th and 7th channel Bi-amp connections.

    The procedure for this type of setup is explained and illustrated in the user manuals for many 7.1 channel receivers. However, as I mentioned earlier, although this is becoming a more common feature, but is not included in all 7.1 channel receivers.
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  • Posts: 991
    edited June 2009
    Ok. Sending a single channel, 2 channels of information.
    That's the idea ... is to create a Y in channels

    I think: 1) If the processor is set as 7.1. 2) Just add the surround to the rear surround side. 3) will be playing dirty to the processor and the results can not predict.
    Will be better or worse (50% vs 50%) and altered the equation ... in the mix ... AVR because of happening but natural reaches of the RCA Amp and then to the speakers who must do the translation.
    I believe that only a specialist in these algorithms could explain what would happen and could vary from one to another type of surround (Dolby, DTS, etc.). This I think is the question?
  • Posts: 1,325
    edited June 2009
    I don't think it will work but I never owned one of those amps so my 2cents would not be worth much.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t

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