MIT Shotgun S3 Cables
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I received my new Shotgun S3 cables over the weekend. Looks brand new in sealed plastic inside the factory box with manual. Awesome.
OK, so it states in the manual to check the "destination" component in owners manual. I plan to run these from either my tuner or CDP to my preamp. Since the signal will go from there TO my preamp, would I be correct in assuming that the preamp is the "destination" component?
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yes and you will need to set the impedance on the box to match your pre's input impedance input.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
yes and you will need to set the impedance on the box to match your pre's input impedance input.
Thanks. That's what I figured. But then I thought wouldn't all most all preamps be the same impedance? You're 100% positive that I set it to the preamp's input impedance and NOT the CDP or tuner?
Also, do you guys just let those network boxes sort of dangle? Won't that put extra stress on the connectors and jacks? -
Wrong.
Correct.
Yes.
No.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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Thanks for all the help. You guys rock. BTW, my in my user manual it states my preamp's input impedance is 30k ohms. So I selected "Low" on the Shotgun cables. Funny thing, my tuner nor my CDP even had any impedance stats for audio listed in their respective manuals. So obviously its the preamp's impedance that matters. :rolleyes:
I can only think of one more thing and I'm ready to start the burn-in process. The user manual states "play a constant music signal (CD player in repeat mode or FM tuner), at a comfortable volume level." So I take it that if I hit "mute" on my preamp's remote, then the burn-n process stops at that point and doesn't resume until re-activate the volume? -
Freak When C wrote: »Thanks for all the help. You guys rock. BTW, my in my user manual it states my preamp's input impedance is 30k ohms. So I selected "Low" on the Shotgun cables. Funny thing, my tuner nor my CDP even had any impedance stats for audio listed in their respective manuals. So obviously its the preamp's impedance that matters. :rolleyes:
I can only think of one more thing and I'm ready to start the burn-in process. The user manual states "play a constant music signal (CD player in repeat mode or FM tuner), at a comfortable volume level." So I take it that if I hit "mute" on my preamp's remote, then the burn-n process stops at that point and doesn't resume until re-activate the volume?
A CDP nor a Tuner would have no input impedances there are no inputs. They are sources. -
You Da Freak!!!!
OK, your CDP and your Tuner are sources so they have an output impedance, things you plug things into have an input impedance, I suppose a source would have an input impedance if you could plug something into it, especially say a tape player.
So if your source is playing a CD and sending a signal to the pre the signal is moving through any wire attached to the source. However, if your wire is run from the pre to say an amp and the pre is muted no signal is getting to the amp, I suspect I have effectively confused you into at least 20 questions, but it is what I do, like Igor.
And we are here for you all the way.
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reeltrouble1 wrote: »You Da Freak!!!!
And we are here for you all the way.
RT1
Awe shucks, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
reeltrouble1 wrote: »I suspect I have effectively confused you into at least 20 questions, but it is what I do, like Igor.
Actually I'm not as incompetent with this stuff as it appears on the surface. I'm certainly new to the quality cabling thingy, which is quite obvious. Therefor I'm a little unsure how to properly burn them in. But the confusion stems from conflicting info I read. Thus, I'm trying to prevent drawing inaccurate conclusions based on fallacious information. Here's an example of conflicting info:The best way to burn in an MIT cable is exactly what has been said before. Stick on a CD on loop, turn the volume down very low and let it go for a couple of weeks. Just make sure that there is a signal going through the cables (if your transducers are moving, however little, you have a signal).
Gavin Fish
MIT Cables
He states I can turn the volume down "very low". Yet the MIT user manual states to leave it at a "comfortable volume level". Then you explain that "if your source is playing a CD and sending a signal to the pre the signal is moving through any wire attached to the source." That tells me I can indeed mute the sound at the pre. But it would seem logical that in a "muted" state my "transducers" won't be moving (for which I had to research what the heck a transducer was). So there seems to be some discrepancy as to how loud I need to play a signal for this burn-in process. Hence the confusion.
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Freak When C wrote: »Awe shucks, that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
Actually I'm not as incompetent with this stuff as it appears on the surface. I'm certainly new to the quality cabling thingy, which is quite obvious. Therefor I'm a little unsure how to properly burn them in. But the confusion stems from conflicting info I read. Thus, I'm trying to prevent drawing inaccurate conclusions based on fallacious information. Here's an example of conflicting info:
He states I can turn the volume down "very low". Yet the MIT user manual states to leave it at a "comfortable volume level". Then you explain that "if your source is playing a CD and sending a signal to the pre the signal is moving through any wire attached to the source." That tells me I can indeed mute the sound at the pre. But it would seem logical that in a "muted" state my "transducers" won't be moving (for which I had to research what the heck a transducer was). So there seems to be some discrepancy as to how loud I need to play a signal for this burn-in process. Hence the confusion.
Being that you are burning in the cable from the CDP to the preamp, it really doesn't matter what the volume of the preamp is set to. But I would do as Gavin said as he is an MIT employee. -
Gotcha, thanks. When I think about it, what Gavin said makes sense. While I would expect there to still be a signal going through the cable with the volume muted, perhaps it's not as strong. But as soon as the signal is allowed to pass through to the amp, the signal going through the cable from CDP to pre has to be at its fullest level with the only difference being how much power the preamp is allowing the amp to produce, which should not affect the signal between CDP to pre. Do I have it right, guys?
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Joe Abrams works for MIT so yes, it's a damn good deal because he will warranty the product and you don't have to worry about being ripped off.
Joe isn't an employee of MIT Cables, but he is an authorized reseller of MIT's online category of products. He is VERY knowledgeable about the audio industry in general and specifically about cables. -
While I would expect there to still be a signal going through the cable with the volume muted, perhaps it's not as strong. But as soon as the signal is allowed to pass through to the amp, the signal going through the cable from CDP to pre has to be at its fullest level with the only difference being how much power the preamp is allowing the amp to produce, which should not affect the signal between CDP to pre. Do I have it right, guys?
Hell no!
Geez, this isn't rocket science.....wait, didn't I say that already!?!
Gavin was referring to speaker cables, not IC's.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Hi Gavin, Can you confirm whether or not having my preamp in "mute mode" affects the burn-in process of MIT IC's placed between CDP and preamp?
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Freak When C wrote: »Thanks for the help and advice, Gavin. I just have a few questions:
1.) Will a tuner work just as well for burn-in, as marvda1 suggested?
2.) Do I need to have my preamp and amp powered on the whole time I'm performing the burn-in process?
3.) I'm not the most electronically versed audiophile. Can you please explain how to know if the transducers are moving and where exactly they're located. Are they inside those network boxes?
Thanks
P.S. I was looking into possibly upgrading my power cable on my Lexicon RT-20 and was considering the Z-Cord II. Can you tell me if the network boxes on the Z-Cord II AC cable is the same technology used in the Shotgun S3 cables?
1.) Absolutely
2.) Yes
3.) The transducers are simply the motors in your loudspeakers. If your speaker cones are moving, you're doing it right.
The Z Cord II and the Shotgun S3 are very different. The Z Cord II does not have power factor correction and doesn't use the same filters that the S3 does. If you have the Money, the Shotgun is a much better option. But be careful not to use the S3 in conjunction with any other power filter as you will experience too much power factor correction, dampening of the signal and rolling off the high frequencies. -
Freak When C wrote: »Hi Gavin, Can you confirm whether or not having my preamp in "mute mode" affects the burn-in process of MIT IC's placed between CDP and preamp?
Yes, you can have your preamp in mute mode to burn in your interconnects between your CDP and preamp. And F1nut is correct, I was referring to speaker cables in my previous post. -
Nm.....Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Hell no!
Geez, this isn't rocket science.....wait, didn't I say that already!?!
Gavin was referring to speaker cables, not IC's.
Um, excuse me but I'm totally aware this aint rocket science. But when I re-read his reply no where does he state he's exclusively referring to speaker cables. I was asking about the burn-in of IC's and he responded with:The best way to burn in an MIT cable is exactly what has been said before. Stick on a CD on loop, turn the volume down very low and let it go for a couple of weeks. Just make sure that there is a signal going through the cables (if your transducers are moving, however little, you have a signal). -
Yes, you can have your preamp in mute mode to burn in your interconnects between your CDP and preamp. And F1nut is correct, I was referring to speaker cables in my previous post.
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Nm.....
LOL, look I realize you feel I'm making a big deal of this. But look back through the thread and for someone who doesn't know, I did get some conflicting info and omissions were of such that I wasn't sure what to believe. So I asked for clarification. Some said they leave there amps of all the time, others said my speakers needed to be getting a signal, etc. I took that to mean I needed to have my amp and preamp on. Even in the MIT user manual it states to play a CD or FM tuner for two days continuously at "comfortable volume". So even the MIT manual was unclear on whether I could mute the sound. How am I supposed to know for sure unless I ask? Sorry if I annoyed you with my questions. That was never my intent. -
Don't worry.
F1 is bad and he's Nationwide.
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Yes, you can have your preamp in mute mode to burn in your interconnects between your CDP and preamp.
ho hum RT1 is right again, hehehehehe
as far as fallicious info I say:
whether fallicious or phallic you still get the point in the end. think about it.
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reeltrouble1 wrote: »Don't worry.
F1 is bad and he's Nationwide.
RT1
I aint been on here at Club Polk for very long but I'm already in the know on that one. He gets annoyed easily, too. But I reckon that I may have certain qualities that bring out the worst in some folks, but I never intentionally try to. Just sorta works out dat way. My life aint always an easy ride and I sometimes wonder what I need to do to smooth out the road that lies ahead. :rolleyes: -
Freak have you been listening to those cables ? Mine are close to having 48 hours on them. Sounding sweet. Have another pair that will be here Thursday:D. At least these are buned in. Was going to put them on the TT but I think I will try the CDP and then see how they sound on the TT.
I can get extra time on burn in since I can run my HT through the Adcom 750 when watching TV.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
you have found a home Freak.
Welcome to the club and hang on it can be a hell-of-a ride. I recommend chain-mail until the skin gets really thick.
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reeltrouble1 wrote: »Don't worry.
F1 is bad and he's Nationwide.
RT1
Tickle his EMO -
I just received my, MIT SHOTGUN S3 IC cable,brand new, 1M. it sounded good,right out of the box.I surely, heard a difference.I can just imagen how it will sound after the burn in process take place.PolkAudioClyde
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Freak When C wrote: »Um, excuse me but I'm totally aware this aint rocket science. But when I re-read his reply no where does he state he's exclusively referring to speaker cables. I was asking about the burn-in of IC's and he responded with:
What style of music would be better for this,Rock,coutry,rap,soul,RnB... two people making Love,ha ha ha. Hey guys,I'm not worried about the burn in process at all,it's sound so good to me now.but, I'm starting the Burn IN process as I type this.PolkAudioClyde -
I have both IC and Speaker Cables (MIT ShotGun S3).PolkAudioClyde
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Put on Barry Manilow on repeat played loudly for 2 weeks. That should do it.
