N. Korea threatens US; world anticipates missile

KrazyMofo24
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edited June 2009 in The Clubhouse
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N. Korea threatens US; world anticipates missile



SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the start of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula in state of war.

The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.

Tensions have been high since North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and then conducted its second underground atomic test on May 25.

Reacting to U.N. condemnation of that test, North Korea walked away from nuclear disarmament talks and warned it would fire a long-range missile.

North Korea has banned ships from the waters off its east coast starting Thursday through July 10 for military exercises, Japan's Coast Guard said.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the North may fire a Scud missile with a range of up to 310 miles (500 kilometers) or a short-range ground-to-ship missile with a range of 100 miles (160 kilometers) during the no-sail period.

A senior South Korean government official said the no-sail ban is believed connected to North Korean plans to fire short- or mid-range missiles. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.

U.S. defense and counterproliferation officials in Washington said they also expected the North to launch short- to medium-range missiles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

South Korea will expedite the introduction of high-tech unmanned aerial surveillance systems and "bunker-buster" bombs in response to North Korea's provocations, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing unidentified ruling party members.

Meanwhile, a flurry of diplomatic efforts were under way to try getting North Korea to return to disarmament talks.

Russia's top nuclear envoy, Alexei Borodavkin, said after meeting with his South Korean counterpart that Moscow is open to other formats for discussion since Pyongyang has pulled out of formal six-nation negotiations.

In Beijing, top U.S. and Chinese defense officials also discussed North Korea. U.S. Defense Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was heading next to Tokyo and Seoul for talks.

South Korea has proposed high-level "consultations" to discuss North Korea with the U.S., Russia, China and Japan.

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Associated Press writers Jae-soon Chang in Seoul; Pauline Jelinek, Pamela Hess and Lolita Baldor in Washington and Min Lee in Hong Kong contributed to this report.

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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited June 2009
    I am amazed that China has not stepped in yet. N. Korea I believe gets all it's oil from China and China can pretty much reel them in if it has to, to maintain stability. Kim J. is definately making rash moves as he knows he is on the way out.
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited June 2009
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,711
    edited June 2009
    :-(

    I think (hope) it's strictly political -- Kim Jong-Il consolidating his local power base...
    but add this on top of everything else that's goin' on and there's a distinct Armageddon feel...
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited June 2009
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  • bklynNupe
    bklynNupe Posts: 728
    edited June 2009
    Little Kim is basically doing a “suicide by cop.”
    I know it’s a terrible thing to say, but I think you have to smash them really bad if they even think of pointing a bottle rocket towards Hawaii. I mean like a “shock and awe.”

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited June 2009
    blah blah blah people with power go on and do things, those that don't threaten to do things. This asshat is a pimple on the Earth's **** box.

    RT1
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited June 2009
    venomclan wrote: »
    I am amazed that China has not stepped in yet. N. Korea I believe gets all it's oil from China and China can pretty much reel them in if it has to, to maintain stability. Kim J. is definately making rash moves as he knows he is on the way out.
    Venom
    China has her own aims, and helping the U.S. has never been one of them. rest assured that if it comes to blows in Korea, it will be China that we are truly fighting, as it was during the first Korean war. China here is the real problem, not North Korea.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2009
    China has her own aims, and helping the U.S. has never been one of them. rest assured that if it comes to blows in Korea, it will be China that we are truly fighting, as it was during the first Korean war. China here is the real problem, not North Korea.

    That was 50 years ago. China has nothing to gain and everything to lose if the US falls.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited June 2009
    Why do you think America is so happy to give so much money to China. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. How much of our crap is actually made in China? I still buy American as much as I can.
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited June 2009
    I think we should give N Korea as many nuclar weapons as they want. Wait. We should just double the amount that they ask for.

    BTW they will be there in about 1 hour. Inbound and active.
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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited June 2009
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    That was 50 years ago. China has nothing to gain and everything to lose if the US falls.

    If this was a year or two ago, I'd agree. But the way I see it, China's wealth hasn't been from selling anything to us, but fro lending us mass amounts of money with cheap interest rates on the return. Why? Because their wealth would kill them with inflation if they kept all that cash in their own borders, and the US is more than happy to borrow borrow and borrow. Hey, it's like "free money" right?

    Now, though, when it's pretty much guaranteed that we aren't going to be paying back anything anytime soon... Well, try telling a loan-shark who has had deep resentment toward you for a good sized fraction of your life that you aren't going to pay.

    All out war directly? I seriously doubt it. But China won't be stepping in to stop one on account of the United States...

    Of course that is my opinion only.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited June 2009
    The Chinese philosophy is to bide her time and wait... She has just as many nukes as the old USSR did, and can support the in-field combat operations of 200,000,000 men for up to 24 months. China's ultimate aim is world domination, the same goal as the Soviets had. China was all to happy to let us deal with the Russians and now she will be all to happy to deal with us, when the time is right. China will force us into bankruptcy, and then make her move when our factories are closed and our government cannot pay for the means to fight back.
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    i hate the way the world is with all these political gangsters .We need a new system for governing that truly gives control to common people
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    i hate the way the world is with all these political gangsters .We need a new system for governing that truly gives control to common people
    We have that here in the good 'ole USA. It's called the Constitution, and the world hates us for it! They don't teach the Constitution to much in school anymore for precisely that reason, and the leaders we elect don't even know what it is anymore...
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  • bruss
    bruss Posts: 1,039
    edited June 2009
    i hope they dont mind if we fight back
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    i hate the way the world is with all these political gangsters .We need a new system for governing that truly gives control to common people

    You should go to N. Korea & China and get the ball rolling.:rolleyes:
  • carpenter
    carpenter Posts: 362
    edited June 2009
    I figure eventually, the current US gov't will realize that singing kumbaya won't stop any missile.
    maybe even that promising tirants that shooting at protesting citizens is not enough of a reason to stop dialogue.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited June 2009
    everpress wrote: »
    If this was a year or two ago, I'd agree. But the way I see it, China's wealth hasn't been from selling anything to us, but fro lending us mass amounts of money with cheap interest rates on the return. Why? Because their wealth would kill them with inflation if they kept all that cash in their own borders, and the US is more than happy to borrow borrow and borrow. Hey, it's like "free money" right?

    China has inflation. It's rampant and out of control. It doesn't get reflected in the world markets because the Chinese government subsidizes EVERYTHING.

    Fuel is the best example. If the Chinese used U.S. Dollars it would go something like this. The U.S. pays $75 for a barrel of oil. That translates to about $2.50 for a gallon of gas. U.S. Citizens ****, U.S. lobbies OPEC to increase production to bring relief. China pays $75 a barrel also. But, Chinese citizens pay 88 cents a gallon because the Chinese government swallows $1.62 per gallon for gas.

    Why do they do that? It drives growth. Dirty, polluting, uncontrolled growth propped up by a government who is running on dividends paid from loans to other countries. China is one massive economic bubble. If they lose the U.S. as a borrower, they lose a massive amount of income and they go in to debt to pay for their subsidizing of their economy. China literally gets upside-down on China. They will go in to ruination faster than you can shake a stick because the inflation would bankrupt the fragile economy overnight, literally.

    China makes. They make lotsa stuff. They sell lotsa stuff too. But unlike European, American, Canadian, Australian and other countries and businesses, they make as cheap as they can to undercut competition. It costs them the same to build stuff as everyone else because raw materials are raw materials. They make up the difference in reduced wages. They can do that because the government subsidizes everything. They make it cheap to live for citizens so they can cut costs on labor and come in drastically lower than the rest of the world. If they didn't have that subsidizing from the government, all of China would be operating at a major deficit. In addition, they subsidize raw materials that they have to import also. So China is working on an economic model they copped from 1945 U.S. but running in a 2009 economy. It's gonna catch up with them and when it does, it's gonna hurt the world, not just China.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited June 2009
    It's not going to happen, but imagine getting blown up on YOUR vacation to Hawaii?

    The guy in the next room at your hotel will be the guy that all the bad **** used to happen to in Mad magazine. Garfinkle or whatever it was. Rollercoasters were his forte.
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited June 2009
    China has her own aims, and helping the U.S. has never been one of them. rest assured that if it comes to blows in Korea, it will be China that we are truly fighting, as it was during the first Korean war. China here is the real problem, not North Korea.

    China's war is more economical. They own about 1 Trillion of our debt. If the $ collapses or is creamed by inflation, their goes China's investment in the U.S. As much as Chia want it, they cannot survive without the U.S. Not yet anyway.
    The Chinese philosophy is to bide her time and wait... She has just as many nukes as the old USSR did, and can support the in-field combat operations of 200,000,000 men for up to 24 months. China's ultimate aim is world domination, the same goal as the Soviets had. China was all to happy to let us deal with the Russians and now she will be all to happy to deal with us, when the time is right. China will force us into bankruptcy, and then make her move when our factories are closed and our government cannot pay for the means to fight back.

    Funny you mention 2 Million men army. That is the figure in the bible of the nation that will go to war. Only China has that # of men.
  • POIDOG
    POIDOG Posts: 391
    edited June 2009
    Hey guys, history say, "nothing like a little war to end repression, I mean recession!"

    Well history didn't literally say that, but you get the point. By the way, technically, we are still at war with N.Korea since the little "gimp" Jong II has disavowed the cease fire agreement that set up North & South Korea. Maybe it's time for a TKO :D
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited June 2009
    venomclan wrote: »
    Funny you mention 2 Million men army. That is the figure in the bible of the nation that will go to war. Only China has that # of men.
    I didn't mention a 2 million man army... I said they could field a 200 million man army!:eek:
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2009
    Yeah but in the Bible they were all on horseback, I dont' think even China is that far behind :D
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited June 2009
    WW3 anyone? :rolleyes:

    Really, Hitler never threatened to attack anyone, he just did it. This little sawed off **** is a loud mouthed Pomeranian. Annoying as hell, but a swift kick to the gut it what he needs.
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited June 2009
    Don't tell Keiko he's gonna get nuked. Let it just happen to him so he can be himself when it comes.
  • POIDOG
    POIDOG Posts: 391
    edited June 2009
  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited June 2009
    Just send over Cesar Milan. He'll fix that little bastahd:mad:




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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited June 2009
    Don't tell Keiko he's gonna get nuked. Let it just happen to him so he can be himself when it comes.

    Keiko won't notice a bunch, but may question why his suntan has improved so much:)
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