why is the csi5 so big?

slowpolky
slowpolky Posts: 714
edited June 2009 in Speakers
I have been tinkering around for about 2 hours with my new lover the csi5. My wife gave me a ride home and i was friekin out because i never told her i bought it.She came in and sat down for a cup of tea before she went back to work and what do you know, 3 loud knocks on the door and the ups guy standing there holding this huge huge box, i dont even think its a polk box. My wife started shouting and swearing at me while i laughed at her , I pulled the speaker out the box and its a f**king monster , she kept saying how ugly it was and stuff then stormed out.When i cranked it up with music and movies i couldent belive my ears. The clarity is the best i have yet to hear , when a guy talks theres this huge bass ive never experienced with my csi3 but with a female its not so pronounced

all i can say that its night and day compaired to the csi3 , but whys it so huge? the cones are like only a little bit bigger

my brand new replacement ps3 comes back tomorrow and it will be the first time i will get to hear the diff with blueray movies using my first ever avr , the 607 ......cant wait
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  • Retro152
    Retro152 Posts: 985
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    I have been tinkering around for about 2 hours with my new lover the csi5. My wife gave me a ride home and i was friekin out because i never told her i bought it.She came in and sat down for a cup of tea before she went back to work and what do you know, 3 loud knocks on the door and the ups guy standing there holding this huge huge box, i dont even think its a polk box. My wife started shouting and swearing at me while i laughed at her , I pulled the speaker out the box and its a f**king monster , she kept saying how ugly it was and stuff then stormed out.When i cranked it up with music and movies i couldent belive my ears. The clarity is the best i have yet to hear , when a guy talks theres this huge bass ive never experienced with my csi3 but with a female its not so pronounced

    all i can say that its night and day compaired to the csi3 , but whys it so huge? the cones are like only a little bit bigger

    my brand new replacement ps3 comes back tomorrow and it will be the first time i will get to hear the diff with blueray movies using my first ever avr , the 607 ......cant wait

    Is the UPS guy ok?
    Receiver: Pioneer Elite SC-05
    Amp: Emotiva Xpa-3
    Front L/R: POLK Rti-a9s':D
    Center:POLK Csi-a6
    Rear surround's:POLK Rti-a1s'
    Sub: Klipsch Synergy sub-12
    Sony Kdl-46w4100 46" LCD
    PS3
    Audioquest type 4 wiring.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited June 2009
    My girlfriend loves my huge center channel:)
  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited June 2009
    congrats, my wife does appreciate what i like so I am happy...but she's not happy with number of speakers tho
    Video: LG 55LN5100/Samsung LNT4065F
    Receiver: HK AVR445
    Source: OPPO BDP-93
    HT: POLK SPEAKERS RTi6, FXi3, CSi5, VTF-3 MK2
    2Ch system: MC2105, AR-XA, AR-2A, AR9, BX-300, OPPO BDP-83
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited June 2009
    Sounds like she needs a time out
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    hey retro, the ups guy is fine lol , the wife hates huge speakers leroy because it fills her space up too much . I guess you could say that she is an anti-audiophile ,but when she came home she was fine .I still cant get over how much the csi5 beats its dwarfed lil brother the csi3. The sound effects on movies come through the center channel way better than i could have hoped for .This center channel seems to hump my rti6 and screams out for a new partner like the rti8 to keep up with .Music is most awsome but the clarity of vocals for movies and tv is where it shines . Theres a nice bounce in every sound it puts out .... i love it and thank all that recommended i replace the csi3
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2009
    "Why is the csi5 so big?"

    Why do you think you are getting such clear sound now?

    It's not rocket science. Bigger is better!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    Dont you think polk could have made the cabinet a little bit smaller .
    true power comes from girth , not length
  • Retro152
    Retro152 Posts: 985
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    hey retro, the ups guy is fine lol , the wife hates huge speakers leroy because it fills her space up too much . I guess you could say that she is an anti-audiophile ,but when she came home she was fine .I still cant get over how much the csi5 beats its dwarfed lil brother the csi3. The sound effects on movies come through the center channel way better than i could have hoped for .This center channel seems to hump my rti6 and screams out for a new partner like the rti8 to keep up with .Music is most awsome but the clarity of vocals for movies and tv is where it shines . Theres a nice bounce in every sound it puts out .... i love it and thank all that recommended i replace the csi3

    I also had the Csi3 for a short time, before replacing it with the Csi-a6, this the revamp of the Csi5. Essentially the same Center, save for the cosmetic change's. But your right, huge difference for dialogue and vocal's with this speaker. Upgrading to a nice floorstander, Rti, or Rti-a serie's would really do this exceptional center justice!:D


    Pat.
    Receiver: Pioneer Elite SC-05
    Amp: Emotiva Xpa-3
    Front L/R: POLK Rti-a9s':D
    Center:POLK Csi-a6
    Rear surround's:POLK Rti-a1s'
    Sub: Klipsch Synergy sub-12
    Sony Kdl-46w4100 46" LCD
    PS3
    Audioquest type 4 wiring.
  • renowilliams
    renowilliams Posts: 920
    edited June 2009
    I know what your saying about big. I bought my csi40 a month ago and was surprised how big it was and how much better the surround experience is with it. My wife wasn't thrilled with the size of it either......lol
    "They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde


    Pre-Amp: Anthem AVM 20
    Amp: Carver TFM-35
    Amp: Rotel RB-870BX
    Fronts : SDA 1B w/ RDO-194s
    T.V.:Plasma TC-P54G25
    Bluray: Oppo BDP-93
    Speaker Cables: MIT Terminater
    Interconnect Cables:DH Labs Silver Sonic BL-1isonic
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    What made my case worse for me though was the fact that the box was like 2 times the size of the actual speaker . When i unpacked it she saw the side profile of it and went crazy . When she came home though it was on my wood tech speaker stand and the profile was less intrusive because the face of it isnt crazy huge with the grill on .I realy want to crank it up with a blue ray tomorrow .I always thought the bigger speakers was just for loudness until people on here pointed out the benefits of bigger speakers .My rti6 seem so tiny now and i look at them like lil bookshelf's
  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited June 2009
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    My girlfriend loves my huge center channel:)

    You know what they say about guys with big center channel speakers....



    :D
  • bklynNupe
    bklynNupe Posts: 728
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    I have been tinkering around for about 2 hours with my new lover the csi5. My wife gave me a ride home and i was friekin out because i never told her i bought it.She came in and sat down for a cup of tea before she went back to work and what do you know, 3 loud knocks on the door and the ups guy standing there holding this huge huge box, i dont even think its a polk box. My wife started shouting and swearing at me while i laughed at her , I pulled the speaker out the box and its a f**king monster , she kept saying how ugly it was and stuff then stormed out.When i cranked it up with music and movies i couldent belive my ears. The clarity is the best i have yet to hear , when a guy talks theres this huge bass ive never experienced with my csi3 but with a female its not so pronounced

    all i can say that its night and day compaired to the csi3 , but whys it so huge? the cones are like only a little bit bigger

    my brand new replacement ps3 comes back tomorrow and it will be the first time i will get to hear the diff with blueray movies using my first ever avr , the 607 ......cant wait

    In about 6 months, I went from a5's & csi3 (which was great) to a9's & a6 for a little " say hello to my little friend, KaaaBOOM!!!" The wife freaked, but guess what her corny Latin American evening soap sounds a lot better. :D

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  • camel_89si
    camel_89si Posts: 43
    edited June 2009
    nice, enjoy the new speaker! i actually just recently upgraded my CSi-A4 to a CSi-A6 myself and i can vouch for the difference in SQ, especially in deeper male voices, it has so much more of a gut so to speak than the CSi-A4 or the CSi5. i'm dying to upgrade my fronts now, looking into some Rti-A5's to eventually purchase. my RTi-A1's look like little babies now lol!! but they still sound great!
    Receiver: Yamaha RX-V863
    Center: PolkAudio CSi-A6
    Fronts: PolkAudio RTi-A1
    Surrounds: PolkAudio RTi-A1
    Subwoofer: Emotiva Ultra Sub 12
    TV: Toshiba 46" 1080p 120hz LCD
    Blu-Ray, DVD & Gaming: Playstation 3
    Logitech Harmony One Remote
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited June 2009
    If you want to wake up that CSi5 put an amp in the mix. I am using a TFM-55X on my CSiA6 and the dialog was much better and strong.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    Why is it so big? Because the parameters of different drivers dictate how large the enclosure needs to be. In this case, it ended up being 7 11/16" high, 24" wide and 14 1/2" deep.;)

    Congrats on the CSi5. I still need to pick one of those up to round out my HT setup. I've just been so focused on the 2 channel gear lately...
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    APC H10 Power Conditioner
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    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    thsmith i cant put an amp in the mix because i bought a 607, But its fine for my small app main room. although after hearing this csi5 it makes me curious as to what a pair of rti12's would sound like. But right now i am on my quest to find a good deal on a pair of rt i cant w8's . To sweeten up my wife tonight i had to endure the movie , confessions of a shopaholic. But even she noticed a vast improvement in the sound . I never even had to crank the volume up as high as before with the csi3 , it gave me less anxiety that i would get the thumpin on the wall from next door . I feel like i dont have to strain my ears to listening late at night and realy relaxes my exeriance, I am going to punish this thing though at 2pm after i finish work . The reason i bought my onkyo 607 was because i thought that it would be the best for reselling as theres alot of dedicated onkyo fans but for now its the ****
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    oops i for got my main question to curt, are all center channels with the same size drivers as the csi5 at least 14 1/2 inch deep?
  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited June 2009
    I don't think it's that big, but I suppose I'm used to the larger centers:
    Polk Csi5
    7-11/16" H x 24" W x 14-1/2" D
    ( 19.53cm H x 60.96cm W x 36.83cm D )

    Polk CS250-S (the smallest one, matched with my RT-8s)
    6" H x 18" W x 8" D
    ( 15.24cm H x 45.72cm W x 20.32cm D )

    CS1000p (dads center, he also has a 350)
    8-5/8" H x 34" W x 14" D
    ( 21.91cm H x 86.36cm W x 35.56cm D )

    Boston Acoustics VR-12 (my bedroom center)
    8.75" H x 25" W x 14" D

    CC-300 (my HT center)
    8" h x 22" W x 15" D
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2009
    Agreed Nguyendot. Compared to my Boston Accoustics VR920 it looks pretty small.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited June 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    If you want to wake up that CSi5 put an amp in the mix. I am using a TFM-55X on my CSiA6 and the dialog was much better and strong.

    Definitely agree, once I put the CSi5 on my Sunfire amp, it performs and sounds even better. I can crank my setup until my ears give out. I got amp power for days.

    Congrats on the new center Slow. The CSi5 is very good.
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    I dont care for an amp of just yet. In the future i will never buy another receiver with pre's because they are not very good for an amp. When i do buy an amp then i will for sure buy individual components to go with it, till then i'm more than happy with my humble 607
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited June 2009
    You know what they say about guys with big center channel speakers....



    :D

    They've got big mains?
    Ludicrous gibs!
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    oops i for got my main question to curt, are all center channels with the same size drivers as the csi5 at least 14 1/2 inch deep?

    No, all center channels are going to be different sizes. The enclosure size is reliant on the parameters of the drivers and XO components used. You can't just take any old driver, throw it in a cabinet, and make it sound good.

    I'm not to up on my center channel dimensions...lol...but I'm sure there are a lot of them with similar sized drivers, in a smaller cabinet. With the CSi5 though, that's just the size that it ended up being.
    The nirvana inducer-
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    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • blueboxer
    blueboxer Posts: 621
    edited June 2009
    I get my Paradigm CC690 on Friday, now that thing is going to be HUGE. The delivery company called to make sure I will be in at the delivery time, guess they don't want to lug it around more than once.
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited June 2009
    The dimensions of my VR920 are:

    6 3/4 H x 27 1/8 W x 10 1/4 D

    Weighs in at 32lbs.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited June 2009
    My new PSB Synchrony One C seems to be 2-3 times the overall size of the LSiC it replaced.

    Size (W x H x D)
    Millimeters 614 x 221 x 325 mm
    Inches 24¼ x 8¾ x 12¾″

    Net Weight
    Kilograms 17 kg/each
    Pounds 37 lb/each
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    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    I dont care for an amp of just yet. In the future i will never buy another receiver with pre's because they are not very good for an amp. When i do buy an amp then i will for sure buy individual components to go with it, till then i'm more than happy with my humble 607

    Surely this is your personal opinion. Allot of members here use AVRs as pre/pro's with excellent results. I use my SC-07 with external amps with excellent results in my dedicated room. Something you need to think over.
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    ive been told that you should use separates for best results because there is less noise ? Can a receiver do as good?
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    I'd just go with an AVR that has pre-outs for now. That way you can upgrade more slowly, instead of having to buy a pre-pro and an amp all at once.

    Get an AVR that has pre-outs, then get an external amp for it. Eventually you can upgrade to a pre-pro. An AVR with an external amp will walk all over that 607(no offense intended).

    That's the upgrade path I'm planning for my HT. I'm running an Onk' 606 right now, which I wish I wouldn't have bought in hindsight. They're great for HT...but kind of suck as far as musicality goes IMO. The lack of pre-outs is the biggest problem though.

    I'm planning on upgrading to a Pioneer Elite SC-07 eventually. Once my bank account recovers, I'll be throwing some amps into the mix. I may or may not even upgrade to a pre-pro. I've looked around at all of the different pre-pro's on the market, and none of them can equal the features that the SC-07 has. Not without spending 3k+ anyway.

    The Onkyo PR-SC886p comes pretty close as far as features go...but I don't think I'll be sticking with Onkyo for my next AVR purchase. Their lack of musicality just doesn't work for me. If you're more of an HT person though, they're great.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    I know now what bright means ,I hope a pair of rti8 will tame the 607 . The rti works for movies +10 ,tonight I watched friday 13 on blu-ray. I havent heard movies sound so good before and it realy showed me what the 607 is capable of. The csi5 had me and my wife jumping out of our chairs and added an extra dimension to the fear .The parts where jason surprises with violent knife attacks was amazing, I dont think it would have been as good had i used the csi3