Symphonic Line CDP

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,647
edited June 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
Tuesday or Wednesday of next week

OMG

;)

I didnt know CDPs could weigh 35 pounds! ;)
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited June 2009
    Yep..and some weigh more. Something about wiggle and jiggle making the music sound bad ??? What are you getting?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    Its not the Vibrato -- (Vibrato has the external PS)

    I cant even pronounce what it is called... I forget what it is exactly

    Either way, it is supposed to be up there with Wadia, Musical Fidelity, etc etc

    The good thing is if I like it Klaus is hooking me up and more... so... I am hoping I dig it so I can get a really solid source for a change.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited June 2009
    So, you're expecting an SQ difference?
    What's wrong with the jolida? ( I may be shooting in the dark here )
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,418
    edited June 2009
    is this the same Symphonic company that make the ten dollar players at Walmart?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    is this the same Symphonic company that make the ten dollar players at Walmart?
    No, that's Yamaha.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,418
    edited June 2009
    I don't mean to offend, it's just that I remember the symphonic name being used on some incredibly bad all-in-one pseudo rack systems that were sold in Kmarts. Did somebody buy the name and remake the company and go more high end, or are there two separate companies using the same name?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2009
    IIRC the Symphonic line that Trey is talking about,is the German manufacturer.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    http://www.symphonic-line.com/

    Not even the same brand --

    They have $10-15,000 amps and preamps -- CDP as well...

    Wilson Audio uses the Symphonic line preamp for alot of their demos

    This is the brand Odyssey bases 90% of its components off of. Thats the reason I am interested in it as all of my electronics were voiced with this CDP as the center piece!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    So, you're expecting an SQ difference?
    What's wrong with the jolida? ( I may be shooting in the dark here )

    Back when there was a Wadia in this room, there was apparent change in the noise floor and clarity. The Shanling has a lot of digital artifacts in the high end. The reason I didn't like the Wadia (other than price) is the fact it was completely emotionless and had no pace with the music. I am hoping the Symphonic CDP can give me similar strengths, but with a little more emotion than the Shanling can convey.

    I'll take a higher noise floor and some grainy highs and a slightly honky midrange that I can tap my foot to rather than a boring old high end CDP that cleaned up the signal so much it sounds like some absolute digital transmission!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited June 2009
    Roger that, Trey. There's nothing worse than a cdp that goes so far to clean up the signal that it removes the life from the music.
    I still need to get by there and put an ear on the new speakers.

    But for now, I'm off to Durham and then to Noahs in the morning!!!
    Road trip!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    This player was waiting on me when I got home...

    What a stout beast...

    Some initial listening impressions are very positive.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited June 2009
    Congrats on the player, Is Klaus going to carry the CD player?
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    Well, technically you can order a Symphonic Line CDP at any time from Klaus (and any other Symphonic Line piece at that) ---

    So yes I guess in a way he is, but this was his demo player he took to shows. He had it upgraded to 2009 specs before sending it my way.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    Heres a fast pic from a webcam --

    Ill take some more later on
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited June 2009
    Good looking player.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    One thing I forgot to mention, this is a fully balanced design!

    I was completely surprised. To bad my preamp doesnt have balanced Ins
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited June 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    One thing I forgot to mention, this is a fully balanced design!

    I was completely surprised. To bad my preamp doesnt have balanced Ins

    Most balance design sound better running balance,although that player
    looks like the it sounds good no matter how you run it:)
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    Here are some good pictures! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2009
    Nice gear Trey,, some journey eh? Congrats.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    Thanks!

    Yeah Ill say --- I think this may be it! ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited June 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Thanks!

    Yeah Ill say --- I think this may be it! ;)

    That Odyssey stack Lookin-Good!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    So I finally have gotten in some listening time...

    I am going to have to say that the Symphonic Line CDP is staying...

    The biggest difference has alot to do with staging and clarity. For instance, alot of CDs have alot more natural depth to them now where as before they seemed kind of 2 dimensional. There are certain passages in CDs where it feels like the actual instrument in definitely in the room, no questions about it... has a very natural feel and texture, almost like someone is playing it for me at the store... This is what I like to hear...

    And around the vocals, where alot of others instruments like bass drums, snares, toms, etc -- there always seems to be some type of cloudiness with my system in this area that makes some things hard to understand. The Symphonic Line CDP seems to take this information and decipher is so much better than any other play Ive had. I can clearly interpret all this information with ease. So the depth is much better...

    Width, another biggie, I like to have instruments extend beyond the speakers and this is harder to do in my room than one would think...

    Not the case anymore, I have not listened to any well recorded CD where there wasnt something placed beyond the speakers at all times, lots of seperation...

    Bass accuracy and clarity in the upper bass regions --- another perk, I can clearly pick out bass guitars now, where this was an issue before.

    Noise floor, far lower...

    This kind of goes with the depth, but just clarity and detail -- there is far more analytical detail in vocals and higher frequency instruments that was not there before, but it does not detract from the music....

    However it does this and why, I do not know - but I definitely like it and wish I had done this a long time ago...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    Very nice man! Good to hear you're happy with the new toy. Certainly looks like a beast of a CDP.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited June 2009
    Thanks!

    Yeah, the Shanling didnt stand a chance.

    It wasnt like a "Yeah...I think I hear a difference..."

    It was more along the lines of... Wow, yeah, thats how its supposed to sound!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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