New Monitor10 Project

tuffgong
tuffgong Posts: 5
edited June 2009 in Vintage Speakers
I am a big fan of Polk speakers. I currently own a set of S-10's, RT-5's, Monitor4's, four RM6000BD's, a pair of RTA11T's and now a pair of Monitor10's. From what I can tell by doing some research here on your site, these are an early set with American-made Peerless tweeters and vinyl veneer. After testing I concluded that one tweeter was non-op and one mid driver was frozen. Further inspection revealed a loose magnet on the bad mid-driver. My question is are these drivers replaceable and if so, at what cost? If the drivers are not avail. are other drivers substituted? What value fuse is used? Thanks for the forum!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,332
    edited June 2009
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350209562208&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&salenotsupported


    This may be just what you need.

    you can also call polk CS i am sure you can get what you need. also tell them you are a club polk member for a discount and free shipping.
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  • woodsman10b
    woodsman10b Posts: 408
    edited June 2009
    if you have patients, than ebay would be your best option. peerless tweeters appear on there quite often, and as far as the mid-woofer is concerned some people on here think that its necessary to replace all of them at once but i disagree, you might even find the number of the ones you have to match on ebay also. good luck
    Most of them only hear how loud it sounds, and the rest of us hear everything else - :rolleyes:
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2009
    If you are interested in a trade, I'll give you 2 working SL2000 for your one working Peerless plus I'd be interested in the broken MW6500. I'll also cover all shipping shipping costs. The tweeters in the ebay ad don't look like any of the SL2000 tweeters I've got, black domes instead of silver. If you do order new RDO tweeters from Polk, I'd still like to buy the one Peerless and MW6500. :)
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,215
    edited June 2009
    The sl2000 won't work as intended in Polk speaker that uses the Peerless driver. It won't fit the opening w/o a little modification and of course the x-over's are slightly different.

    Just an FYI

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Poee7R
    Poee7R Posts: 904
    edited June 2009
    For anyone looking at the auction TFLF posted, those arent sl2000's. They look like replacement RDO's to me, not positive but I would say the RDO-94's.


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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,215
    edited June 2009
    Those are RDO's......probably 194-1's but it's hard to see the wire terminals in the photo. Those will not fit in an opening where a Peerless is used. You could slightly enlarge the opening with a dremel tool as others have done, but it takes a bit of know how.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • tuffgong
    tuffgong Posts: 5
    edited June 2009
    Thanks for the feedback. So if i'm hearing this right, both the tweeters AND the mids are out of production, and that leaves on-line auction sites etc. to carry on with Monitor 10's. And that there are other options but they require mods. to the cabinet? Is the "magnet repair" idea for the midrange driver a viable option? I appreciate you guys taking the time.
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2009
    Hi, have you called Polk's cust.service about a replacement 6.5" MW? I don't know which models are still available, I'm going to "experiment" with re-centering loose magnets as soon as I acquire a few broken ones. As far as enlarging the recess for RDO tweeters, anybody that can mortise a door for a hinge should be able to do the baffle with just a sharp utility knife and a chisel. If you get desperate, I've got one Peerless that is looking for a mate,I don't recall whether mine has the little hole in the dome or not.Good luck!
  • StantonZ
    StantonZ Posts: 445
    edited June 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The sl2000 won't work as intended in Polk speaker that uses the Peerless driver. It won't fit the opening w/o a little modification and of course the x-over's are slightly different.
    H9

    So is the reverse true? Will a Peerless Tweeter mate well with later model speakers that had SL2000's? Also sounds like SL2000 "hole" will be too big for the Peerless. These can't be that different in size, can they?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,215
    edited June 2009
    StantonZ wrote: »
    So is the reverse true? Will a Peerless Tweeter mate well with later model speakers that had SL2000's? Also sounds like SL2000 "hole" will be too big for the Peerless. These can't be that different in size, can they?

    You are correct and yes they are different enough in size to compromise the solid seal you need in order for the passive radiator to work effectively.

    There must be no air leaks in the cabinet since the PR's movement is based on the pressurized air in the cabinet. Putting even a slightly smaller tweeter (like the peerless) could compromise the seal and then you would have issues.

    Also the x-overs are different enough that they don;t sound correct.

    FWIW

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • StantonZ
    StantonZ Posts: 445
    edited June 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Also the x-overs are different enough that they don;t sound correct.
    H9

    Thanks for the advice; that will help me to make a better decision.
    Yamaha RX-A2050 AVR (5.0.2); LG OLED77C2 4K TV
    (4) Polk Monitor 10B's w/SoniCaps, Mills, and RDO-194 tweets (R/L F/R)
    (2) Polk RC80i (Top Middle)
    Polk CS300 center channel
    Analog: B&O TX2 Turntable, Nakamichi Cassette Deck 1
    Digital: Pioneer CLD-99 Elite LD, Panasonic DMP-UB900 UHD Blu-Ray
    Bedroom: Arylic Up2Stream AMPv3 driving Polk Monitor 4's w/peerless tweets
  • geppy1
    geppy1 Posts: 3,075
    edited June 2009
    Mine are only 400 after yours You need 6500 6.5 inchers. I have found some of the 6.5 inch units do not sound the same.