how far away should my speakers be?

slowpolky
slowpolky Posts: 714
edited July 2009 in Speakers
I think my title says it all. I am constantly shiftin them back and forth , although theres no set way to put them i just wana know how you guys place yours and experiment with diffrent results
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    How big is your room? How many speakers are you running. And what are they? Ms?

    Even then the room will dictate placement even if we give you the standard line for placement, so I'm not sure there's a definitive answer to this?

    cnh
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    heres some in fo on my room, its 11 ft wide by 29 with 8 ft ceilings. I have 2 ht seats slap bang in the middle of the room
  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited June 2009
    thats a tough question as there are allot of variables, typically closer to the back wall or corner = more bass and you want to be sitting further back that they are apart unless you toe them in and if they're SDA's its a whole different animal.
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    i am running csi3 rti6 with fxi rear and have 2 lil yammys that i use for back but have them sitting above the pj screen
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2009
    Ideally your front channels should form a triangle with your seating position.

    For instance, if your sitting 9 feet away from the center point of your front soundstage, the front speakers should ideally be about 9 feet apart.

    I like to use a little bit of toe in on my RTi's, just enough so that the tweeters intersect at a point right behind my head. More toe-in will create a more detailed deeper soundstage, less toe-in will result in a slightly less detailed, but much wider soundstage.

    The tweeters should be about level with your ears in your sitting position.

    I have my RTi8's about 2.5' from the back wall and about 2 feet from the side walls. Moving them closer to the back walls will increase the bass output, moving them away will decrease bass output.

    What it really comes down to, is you've got to play around with placement in your individual room with your individual setup to see what sounds best to your individual tastes.;) It can take a while to find that sweet spot sometimes.


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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    i have the 2 bck srds above at the top of the pj screen right now for dolby llz. i always though one should pull them far out from the back wall to increase the bass . I like the idea of the front tweeters crossin over behind my head because i always toe"d them in before meeting my ears
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    i just cracked out the tp measurer an my spkrs frnt are 9 ft app but my chairs on 8 ft back
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    The closer fronts are to wall surfaces the more room boundary reinforcement on the bass but you often sacrifice accuracy for a few extra db or whatever it is!

    That's roughly a triangle...

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    what is accuracy ? like clarity of sound reprdctn
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    here's another bit of info . When measuring my rears the i have them 4 ft away from each of the 2 chairs in a straight line 4 ft above the ground giving my left back channel a dist of 7 ft, should i be pushin them back further behind me or keep them in line with the back seats
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    what is accuracy ? like clarity of sound reprdctn

    Tight-fast punchy bass vs. boomy and muddy!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    here's another bit of info . When measuring my rears the i have them 4 ft away from each of the 2 chairs in a straight line 4 ft above the ground giving my left back channel a dist of 7 ft, should i be pushin them back further behind me or keep them in line with the back seats

    Height is more or less OK. You could move them just a bit behind your seating position, not much. You have a 5.1 system, right?

    Also, on the fronts, if you can, get all the speakers (L/C/R) lined up with the tweeter at ear level; you should.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    well my csi3 is on a 19 inch stand and sits at 25 inch , my rti6 are on 21 inch stands and sit at 36 inch > Should i flip the csi upside down so that it sits on its angled up position?
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,075
    edited June 2009
    Try to aim the center speaker at an angle closest to "ear-level" of you seating position. You may need to get a bit creative...I have my center essentially on the ground, angled up toward the seating pos. w/ rubber foot things. 19" up is pretty good IMO...
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited July 2009
    Funny how things change on here
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited July 2009
    Have you ever tried to read what you post? Can you see why some around here may think you are not, how do I say this nicely, very bright. I mean your pretty smart and spell real well but just not real bright.
  • Retro152
    Retro152 Posts: 985
    edited July 2009
    Slow, you just dont get it. This a great place for info, and advice. You decided a long time ago to destroy your credibility here, how the hell can anybody take you seriously?:confused: Most of your threads are posted with absolutely no forethought, mixed with a classless bag of ignorance and expletives. This isnt what Club Polk is about. Why wouldnt members get irritated with you? Your just inviting confrontation everytime you post, and its really tiresome. Everyone here will jump to the aid of a member with a valid question, or, give you a pat on the back regarding gear. But man, your making it very tough.:mad:



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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited July 2009
    My views on firearms is what made everyone explode , before that everything was cool I suppose

    Only got 2 pats on the back for posting my new improve'd setup

    People just cant help making my past there future in relation to everthing I post
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited July 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    My views on firearms is what made everyone explode , before that everything was cool I suppose

    Only got 2 pats on the back for posting my new improve'd setup

    People just cant help making my past there future in relation to everthing I post

    Trust me on this one
    It is not your or anyones views on firearms that you get busted on.
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited July 2009
    What else then ?

    I have taken peoples advice and built my system on it

    I hardly ever trash talk , maybe only to some for revenge

    I made my name because I'm new to the game
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    My views on firearms is what made everyone explode , before that everything was cool I suppose

    Only got 2 pats on the back for posting my new improve'd setup

    People just cant help making my past there future in relation to everthing I post
    I was in the same boat as you were when it comes to the firearms but in your case, you lost it and got involved in name callings and all. Who ever starts is totally irrelevant, what's relevant is if you get into it or not.

    Same applies to your latest discussion, doesn't matter who starts what as it is simply how you react to it. Ignoring the ignorant (if the case arrise) takes you off the ignorant list. This is a fun learning and sharing site with great people but I can honestly not see how you could enjoy it if you simply try to make your word the last word.

    There is a bunch of great people here that do appreciate each others even when many never seen each other (while many had the opportunity to meet). You pound at one or a few of them, you have to realize there is a bunch one behind the others that will be waiting to throw the punch at you if you are willing to play the game.

    I am convinced you know this: You can not change others behavior and attitude but you definitely can change yours... Don't take it personnally and start ignoring what is irrelevant to your discussions. When you start a thread, you have the power to lead the thread where ever you want/need to go but it is up to you if you agree to get distracted or not from the subject you are looking for answers.

    I'll repeat again, when you post preview what you are about to submit and make a wise decision if you should post it or not. Often I simply decided to cancell/delete a post after reading my self.

    Cheers!
    TK
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Trust me on this one
    It is not your or anyones views on firearms that you get busted on.
    Definitely not, it is the the name calling armageddon of name callings it turned in afterward. Just for your own sake, go back to that thread and go carefully through it, yes you were slightly punched for your different view but take a serious look at your punch backs and how it finally turned out. Your discussion simply derailed from your OP and you willingfully helped it derailed, what do you think ;) ?

    Cheers!
    TK
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    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    what do you think ;) ?

    Cheers!
    TK

    I think you went from being the Polk police to the people pleasing peace maker.
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2009
    I think you went from being the Polk police to the people pleasing peace maker.
    In Quebec a policemen is called "un agent de la paix" which means some like a "peace maker" (not wanting to translate word for word. I guess I am who I am, never met to be a policemen/peace maker, lkie everyone, I just shoot what comes out my toughts without really realizing what people can make of it. I guess being tired (physically) just plays with the mood and I suddendly turn into a "peace maker" and who knows, maybe tomorrow I'll simply be a "policemen" unless the mood is simply to be a lurker? We'll see...;)

    Cheers!
    TK
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    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)