best crossover setting csi3 fxi3 rti6

slowpolky
slowpolky Posts: 714
edited June 2009 in Speakers
i have the onkyo 607 and i want to select the best crossover setting for movies. I have checked the manual for these 3 diff speakers and theres nothing , for the fxi it says set them to small? i want to hear dialoge clear and dont know what i should also have for the indipendant eq settings on my centre csi3 . Its giving me options 63hz 250hz 1000hz 4000hz 16000hz , i dont use a sub , can you guys help me out on this because i want to hear dialoge clearly at a low volume
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  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited May 2009
    penny for your thoughts
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited May 2009
    If you don't use a sub, then set your fronts, center, and surrounds to large and be conservative on how loud you go with the volume.

    By setting you the RTi6s, CSi3 and FXi3s to large at low volumes you should get an acceptable configuration for movies and so, there is no xover to set.

    When you do get a sub, THEN you should consider reconsider setting the xover on your speakers to 'small'.

    At that time, start with 80Hz, and experiment as to what xover freq works best for your setup and room acoustics.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited May 2009
    i dont think there is any small and large on this onkyo, all i know is that i can set my fronts to full range, whats the DR PEPPER deal on cranking the volume too high with the large thingy for all speakers?
  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited May 2009
    Full range = Large. Small = anything with a crossover setting. Small used to basically just be an 80Hz crossover, but newer AVRs give you more options for system integration. Erik's advice to start with 80Hz is sound.

    But man, what you should really take away from this thread is this: GET A SUBWOOFER. Once you've offloaded the bass duties to a powered sub, it will give that 607 more headroom to properly drive your other speakers, giving you clearer dialogue and a more defined mid-range.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    upon erics advice i set all my speakers to full range .What happend was amazing , i heard so mutch bass that when i wached the new underworld movie i thought i had a sub running. The fxi3's came alive and had gusto in there effects giving me a real spacial feel wrapping the sound all around me, but heres a wierd and totly awesome byproduct from it . When i first used the late night volume eq for keepin the sound at a certain level it totaly muffled the dialoge in movies like some **** was waiting for some one to speak and turning it down on que leaving just boomy bass effects . Not anymore though , with all speakers set to full this feature totaly rocks .Dialoge is clean and clear and i dont have to keep that sweaty palm deal with the anxiety of waiting for the sound to spike , The 2nd reason i dont have a sub is that i aint found a deal yet but the first is the people in the appartment complex complain . but setting all speakers to full with the auddessy volume eq has now made me hold out even longer to find a deal on a sub
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    nearly forgot, can i like totaly blow my speakers up with this setting? lol
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited June 2009
    slowpolky wrote: »
    nearly forgot, can i like totaly blow my speakers up with this setting? lol


    Depends on the movie and the amount of LFE 'effects' and how loud you like to listen to.

    For music - I'd say you are ok to operate sensibly with the volume. Back in the 'stone age' of 2-channel music folks lived normal lives without dedicated bass management and subwoofers, and the most feared monster in the land was amplifier clipping and damaging tweeters - not woofers.

    If you like watching Cloverfield at maximum volume you may indeed overdrive the bass/lfe content to your drivers and damage something.

    If you are sensible with the volume for low to moderate levels and have not set your bass setting to be 'hot' (ie, you have not purposely turned up the bass volume after your calibration runs), then you should be fine and the HT Gods will not descend upon you in wrath nor will you upset the cosmic balance of the universe.

    But at some point - heed the advice given here and save up for a sub. Your HT experience will be greatly enhanced and you can sleep peacefully at night knowing that the dangerous LFE monster has been tamed in your system. :p

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • slowpolky
    slowpolky Posts: 714
    edited June 2009
    ye your right, i do keep it down low and if i wanted to crank it then i would for sure buy an awesomely loud sub , so no worries about the cranking budds