What do I need?
Jaws78
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I have the following as my home theater system:
JVC RX-6030V receiver
2-Polk Audio RTi10 as my fronts
2-Polk Audio Monitor 60 as my surrounds
1-Bose VCS-10 as my center
1-Polk Audio PSW10 as my sub
I'm assuming that the receiver doesn't produce enough power for all that cause on Dolby Digital (all 5+sub) I can get the volume up to about 21 before overloading it but I would like to get it louder and on 2 channel I can only get to like 11/12 before overloading it. What can I do to get it to stop overloading and allow me to listen to it fully?
JVC RX-6030V receiver
2-Polk Audio RTi10 as my fronts
2-Polk Audio Monitor 60 as my surrounds
1-Bose VCS-10 as my center
1-Polk Audio PSW10 as my sub
I'm assuming that the receiver doesn't produce enough power for all that cause on Dolby Digital (all 5+sub) I can get the volume up to about 21 before overloading it but I would like to get it louder and on 2 channel I can only get to like 11/12 before overloading it. What can I do to get it to stop overloading and allow me to listen to it fully?
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I remember that JVC model and even the 8030 (an upper model) might have some problems with power, although it might not clip as easily. Check out some of the threads here on the new Pioneer Elites? Might save you from needing separates! Their ICE-Power amp sections can easily handle your Rti system! Also, a center upgrade is a must.
You also need a more powerful sub...because your fronts can hit lower and harder than your PSW10? You might be able to get away with using your receiver if you buy a big A$$ sub and set ALL YOUR speakers to small...this would relieve the receiver from having to put out a lot of power to the 10s woofers!
Also, it would be useful if you could tell us what your 'budget' range is?
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I agree with what CNH and Keiko have said. You definatley need to decide on a budget and make decisions based on that. I would look at a used reciever with some power for now. I just bought a used reciever with lots of power, in mint condition for a good price, so they are out there."They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde
Pre-Amp: Anthem AVM 20
Amp: Carver TFM-35
Amp: Rotel RB-870BX
Fronts : SDA 1B w/ RDO-194s
T.V.:Plasma TC-P54G25
Bluray: Oppo BDP-93
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+1 on upgradoing your center channel. IMO one of if not the most important speaker in any good setup is the center. I don't remember the exact number but something like 60-70% of the audio in any movie comes out of your center. Then maybe upgrading your receiver, sub, and adding external amplification. Depending on your budget it could get a little pricey, but you can always find good deals on equipment if you look hard enough. Thow out a number on what you are looking to spend and which upgrades you want to do first and we will take it from there. Oh and welcome to Club Polk, you should have ran while you had the chance!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, sorry had to do that, lol.HT Rig
Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
Center- Polk Audio CS2
Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's
Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3
2 CH rig (in progress)
Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:
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Hi Jaws.
You need lots more power to drive your speakers.
The RTi10 has max recommended watts of 300. Therefore, you need at least 200w and preferably 300w.
The M60s have recommended of 200w. For cthese you need at least 130w and preferably 200w.
A 200w x 5.1 or 7.1 receiver would do the trick. I don't even know if any are made with that kind of power.
What I would do (budget irrelevent) is a 7.1 pre/pro with a 5 x 200w amp. Or, a 2 x 200w amp for the front speakers plus a 3 x 150w amp for center and surrounds.
As already posted, you need a better center speaker , preferably Polk for matching sound of the front mains.
If you can drive your speakers w/ sufficient power, you can get rid of your sub. The RTi10 gets down to 35Hz which will suffice for most music. If you want loud LFE for movies, you will need a better sub.
What is your budget?
Mike____________________________________________
Home Theater 32"LG LCD; Comcast; 7.1 Onkyo 805; Fronts: Polk M50s; Center: Polk CS2; Sides: Polk M40s; Rear: B&W LM1s; Subs: (2) Sony 12" x 100w; Samsung 1500BDP; Toshiba A-2 HD-DVDP.
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Hi Jaws.
You need lots more power to drive your speakers.
The RTi10 has max recommended watts of 300. Therefore, you need at least 200w and preferably 300w.
The M60s have recommended of 200w. For cthese you need at least 130w and preferably 200w.
A 200w x 5.1 or 7.1 receiver would do the trick. I don't even know if any are made with that kind of power.
What I would do (budget irrelevent) is a 7.1 pre/pro with a 5 x 200w amp. Or, a 2 x 200w amp for the front speakers plus a 3 x 150w amp for center and surrounds.
As already posted, you need a better center speaker , preferably Polk for matching sound of the front mains.
If you can drive your speakers w/ sufficient power, you can get rid of your sub. The RTi10 gets down to 35Hz which will suffice for most music. If you want loud LFE for movies, you will need a better sub.
What is your budget?
Mike
WOW MIKE!
no sub? a 7.1 pre/pro with a 5x200w amp? plus.....?
Not the best advice OP. Not to bash you MIKE, but no sub in a home theater system, which can be done, would never be recommended.
A pre/pro has no amp built in. A pre/pro with an amp is a a/v receiver. A 7.1 receiver will also have 7 channels not 5.
OP, take it one step at a time but have a plan. Start with the center channel, that is by far step one. Get your speakers timber matched, as well as get a good center channel. Check the polk ebay store they have great deals.
As far as a receiver. Figure out if you definitely want to go with the separate amp or not before you buy. I would say and most have already said here, get a receiver with pre outs so you have the option for the separate amp. Buy as much receiver as you can afford at that time. If you cant get good power/brand/pre-outs wait and save your money.
Definitely get a sub. It help creates the experience. You get to fell whats happening, not just hear it.Man Cave: 7.1
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-Onkyo Pre/Pro> 2 Adcom555se bridged and bi-wired> RTi A9s
> Adcom GFA 7605> CSi A6 center, RTi A3s side rears, FXi A6s rears
>Sub = MK Audio 10'
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-Directv
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Here's a funny story about center channel speakers. I picked up an Optimus center channel for free, where a guy moved out of his house and just left it there. I previously had been using a bookshelf Bose speaker as my center. Now I use a Boston Center, which is great, but at the time the Optimus actually did make a huge difference over what I was previously using. A good center channel speaker can make the whole system sound better! I know I might get some haters here, but the center I was using was Bose...and the Optimus replaced it because it just sounded better.
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Would a Yamaha Rx-V1 work good? There is one for sale for $400 on craigs list.
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Not knowing much about Yammy's and looking at their website and Home Theater mag it would appear that the RX-V1 is their "flagship" receiver and at 150W per channel at 8 ohms, I would say it would be a pretty good buy at $400 (assuming there is nothing wrong with it) It retails for $3200 new at the Yamaha website and a quick Froogle search netted only one result for about $1350 new. Like I said I am not very knowledgable with Yammy's and I don't believe it decodes the new Dolby True HD, or DTS HD MA, but I could be wrong. Hopefully someone will have more/better advice.HT Rig
Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
Center- Polk Audio CS2
Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's
Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3
2 CH rig (in progress)
Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:
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Damn you Keiko, lol. Should have typed faster, lol.HT Rig
Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
Center- Polk Audio CS2
Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's
Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3
2 CH rig (in progress)
Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:
It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. -
I have the Yamaha V663 and it is ample for my needs. Not the best, but a great value for the price. Do yourself and favor and look for a used one.