Carver help
2-tall
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I have a chance to pick up a pair of Carver ALS111+ for $200.00 .I am going to listen to them shortly.How do they compare to my 3.1TL's.What about positioning.If they sound good I will power them with my two tfm 24's
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I had a couple of hours with them at fredv's house. Comparing them to 1Cs...the soundstage wasn't as wide, but wide, very tall and feature high definition imaging (moreso than SDAs) though they didn't sound forward to me at all nor bright. The bass was more impressive. Fred's front end is considerably better than mine, but I'd consider them if not a notch up certainly worth a $200 experiment (unless they are really beat up). That's more than a steal.
Combo rig:
Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
PB13Ultra RO
BW Silvers
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Two different animals. For 200 buy them now. I would love to have a pair. Where are you located?engtaz
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TFM-24 ?? what are the specs? The TFM 22 & 25 are 225 wpc.engtaz
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They are the same as the 25's no meter.
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2-tall, for $200.00 it is a no-brainer to get your listen on. Lower priced ones go for usually around 6 or so and I've seen mint ones go for close to or over 1K. Just make sure the ribbon works by specifically playing a piano passage at reasonably louder volumes. If the sound presents any abnormal "things" when you put your ear up to the ribbons, then pass as it is the ribbons that are the diamond [expensive ones too] in those speakers.
As to how they stack up to the SDA's? Apples and oranges. Different flavors man.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I brought them home and put on music with piano passages and they were fine but on some other passages I could here a buzz as if something was loose at the top 6- 12 " with my ear about 6" away.Is there a possibility of something not tight?
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Yes. I have to go back to work right now so I can not help at the moment. In the meantime, I see that you have made your way over to the Carver forum. James, the site's owner is the official Carver ribbon repair go-to guy and he can lead you in the right direction. If he doesn't get back to you by the time I get back, I'll give you step by step instructions on how to repair them..........or, if you are in a hurry, look in the Carver speaker section and look for ribbon repairs. The information you need is in there somewhere.
Oh, it may just be an easy and free repair. No promises but from your description, you are looking good. Congrat's on your new purchase.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Nevermind [I'm an expert on procrastination], here you go. http://www.carveraudio.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6020
This is James' father Dave, the original ribbonmeister.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I'll have to buy you a beer some time.At first I went too tight and the buzzing was much worse .It ended up that I loosened the screws and most of the buzz went away.I'll give them more time before trying anything else.These were unused in a basement for ten years.The longer they play the better the sound
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Well after 4 hours the buzz is back and I can't adjust it out.It is like a very faint scraping sound.Any ideas.
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Can you locate where in the speaker it is coming from exactly?......and I do mean exactly. Put your ear up to the speaker in question and see if you can tell us if the sound is coming from the woofer, the back of the cabinet or the bottom of the ribbon. If it is not any of these, let us know where in the ribbon the issues occur, please.
Oh, and what kind of frequency does it occur at [if you happen to know]?~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
One other thing since you had mentioned a "scraping sound". Turn off all power to the rig and see if the speaker in question has this symptom. Take your hand and slowly depress the woofer in as far as it will go without using too much force. Does it come back to its normal position without any resistance whatsoever or does it seem like there is an obstruction? Try this maybe 5 or 6 times.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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The ribbons are very sensitive to climate conditions. Sitting in a basement for 10 years didn't do them any favors. Anyway, humidity plays havoc, so what's your environment like? You can try using a hair dryer on the areas that buzz to "dry" them out if the problem is related to humidity.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I received help from over at Carver and may have the buzzing under control.Time will tell. These take a lot of time to position .Come to think of it so have my 3.1tl's.So far the separation of instruments is better.
