Removing Mortited drivers

jimbo1421
jimbo1421 Posts: 772
edited May 2009 in Vintage Speakers
Hi there.

I have spent the afternoon working on the Monitor 10s I picked up a few weeks ago. I have sealed the open mitre joints at the bottoms of the cabinets with epoxy and Dynamatted the driver cages on the midwoofers and passive bass radiator. For now I am leaving the tweeters and crossover alone.

I picked up some Mortite equivalent from Home Depot; it's made by MD and called Replaceable Cord Weatherstrip. I expect that I will someday refurbish the crossovers and will need to remove the drivers again. Has anyone had to do this after using Mortite or the MD equivalent to seal the drivers in? Is it harder to remove a Mortited driver than one sealed with the speaker tape? Very difficult? Impossible? I would sure like to know before I stick them down.

Also, the dates on the drivers are from 1988, so the M10s are 21 years old. Are the crossovers old enough to require rebuilding?

Regards,
Jim
5.1 System:
TCL R613 55" 4K
Front: SRS-3.1TL
Center: CS400i
Surround: Monitor 10B
PSW10 subwoofer
Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
Parasound P3 pre-amp
Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

2.0 Office System:
Monitor 10A (Peerless)
Outlaw 1050 receiver
Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
MacPro
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,393
    edited May 2009
    To remove the driver after using Moretite, I used an "L" shaped hex key and a pair of pliers. Choose a hex key thin enough to slip the shorter end under the edge of the driver and pull on outward on the longer end of the key with the pliers. Might have to pull a few different places to loosen the driver form the cabinet.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited May 2009
    Thanks, Stan. How long after you stuck down your drivers with Moretite did you remove them again?
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2009
    skrol wrote: »
    To remove the driver after using Moretite, I used an "L" shaped hex key and a pair of pliers. Choose a hex key thin enough to slip the shorter end under the edge of the driver and pull on outward on the longer end of the key with the pliers. Might have to pull a few different places to loosen the driver form the cabinet.
    I used the same method to remove a pair of "mortited" drivers. They were installed for about 2 months. They were removed again a week later and took the same amount of force. Both times, it took less force than removing drivers after using PartsExpress's gasket tape.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • dolby1970
    dolby1970 Posts: 6
    edited May 2009
    Jimbo,

    Any chance you could measure the outside diameter of the passive radiator? I need that measurement so that I can route out a recess for the cabinet I've built for the drivers I should soon be getting.

    thanks,

    dolby
    My system...

    Main - Polk SDA SRS
    Center channel - 2 Monitor 10Bs in custom cabinet
    Surround - Monitor 5Bs in custom corner cabinets.
    Sub - 4-15" JBLs in ported custom enclosures.

    Power - (2) Crown Xti2000s (2) Crown Xti1000s

    Yamaha 5.1 Receiver as a preamp(old)

    Projector - Panasonic PT-AE3000U on a 128" 2.35:1 screen.
  • jimbo1421
    jimbo1421 Posts: 772
    edited May 2009
    dolby1970 wrote: »
    Jimbo,

    Any chance you could measure the outside diameter of the passive radiator? I need that measurement so that I can route out a recess for the cabinet I've built for the drivers I should soon be getting.

    thanks,

    dolby

    Hi Dolby,
    I think this is a bad idea. My practice as a former custom furniture maker was always to have the hardware item in hand to measure before I started making cuts into my project. Manufacturers always reserve the right to change specifications from their printed material and sometimes do. In our case there could be variations from one PR to another. Finally, I would not rely on dimensions supplied by some guy on the internet, even if it is me. Be patient, wait for your PRs to arrive and your project will come out right.

    Regards,
    Jim

    PS: My passive radiators measured 10-1/8" or a hair less. The recesses measured 10-5/32". They were marked by hand as SW100 and 6-30-88.
    5.1 System:
    TCL R613 55" 4K
    Front: SRS-3.1TL
    Center: CS400i
    Surround: Monitor 10B
    PSW10 subwoofer
    Onkyo PR-SC886P Pre/Pro
    NAD T955 5 channel power amplifier
    Technics SL-1710 MK2 turntable
    Audio-Technica AT14Sa cartridge
    Parasound P3 pre-amp
    Oppo BDP-103 Blu-Ray
    2014 MacBook Pro 2.8 GHz

    2.0 Office System:
    Monitor 10A (Peerless)
    Outlaw 1050 receiver
    Parasound HCA-1000A power amp
    MacPro