RTA 11T VS. Monitor 7

MillerLiteScott
MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
edited May 2009 in Vintage Speakers
What are your thoughts between these two speakers?
Sound Quality
Imaging
Sound Stage

Thanks,

Scott
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,214
    edited May 2009
    What are your thoughts between these two speakers?
    Sound Quality
    Imaging
    Sound Stage

    Thanks,

    Scott

    The 7C's are classics and very nice sounding. I give the edge to the 11T's for bass response, bass accuracy and imaging and sound stage. A true D'Apollito array. All things being equal the 11's by a decent margin.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • artinaz
    artinaz Posts: 185
    edited May 2009
    Wo! As I write this, I have the 11TLs playing in the background.

    Currently I have the SDA-SRS2, the 11TLs and the monitor 10B (no experience with the 7, but perhaps the comparison with the 10s will give you an idea).

    I first got the 10B. I didn't know what to expect from such older smaller speakers. Definitely liked the treble end- the bass was no slouch either.

    However, the 11TLs surprised me even more with the bass response- it is realy tight and responsive. These speakers really go transparent, they totally disappear when the music comes on. I can better discern the depth of the soundstage. I would choose the 11TLs any-day.

    Couple of things tho, for this comparison to be meaningful to you. This is the 11TL, not the 11T, though I don't think there will be much difference between the two. Also, I dont have the stands for the monitor 10s- they should get better with the stands.
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    The 11TL's could very possibly be my next pair of vintage Polk's. I'm running 7A's right now, and the 11's would probably be a nice upgrade. Not that the 7's would be going anywhere.;) I love these speakers.

    It's a toss up though. My next vintage Polk's will either be RTA-11TL's, SDA2B's or SDA1C's. That purchase is still a ways off though, so it remains to be seen.
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  • jtgranby
    jtgranby Posts: 887
    edited May 2009
    Scott

    I have a pair 7b's,presently being used as surrounds in the HT system.You are more than welcome to borrow them. Give them a test run.


    Jim
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited May 2009
    Jim,

    That is a very generous offer. I have a pair of RTA 11t's. I see the makings of a mini shoot out. Most seem to revere the Monitor 7 but so far it seems as most are leaning towards the RTA 11T(L).

    I think the RTA 11T(L) series are a just right sized tower speaker just like the the Monitor 7 is a just right sized floor stand speaker. I did not know how the D'Apollito design of the RTA 11T would fair over the TM design of the Monitor 7.

    Scott

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,214
    edited May 2009
    To add a bit more opinion ;), I've always thought Joe D'Apolitto's way of positioning the drivers was very clever. I would take this type of driver arrangement over a typical TM arrangement. The 11's and to some extent the 8's just have that combo of magical cohesion for both superb imaging and sound stage.

    For those interested:

    A loudspeaker configuration developed by and named for Joe D'Appolito, in which a high frequency driver, or tweeter, is positioned between two midrange or low frequency drivers that each cover the same frequency range. Depending on the exact implementation the speakers can be positioned with a vertical and/or horizontal orientation. In either case the two midrange drivers serve a couple of purposes: they combine to create a larger effective woofer or midrange driver size, and they also serve to control the dispersion of the tweeter. The tweeter's output is somewhat corralled or contained by the sound coming from the midrange drivers in a similar way to how two parallel surfaces control dispersion. There are some variations on the design where two same sized woofer/midrange drivers may cover slightly different frequency ranges, however those aren't considered true D'Appolito designs. (Input from an inSync Reader:) The D'Appolito design specifies a third order crossover network. The tweeter is coordinated with the woofer so that at the selected crossover frequency, the drivers all have similar horizontal dispersion. (This is not easily accomplished because many drivers behave badly at the extremes of their range.) The advantage of doing it all correctly is one of the most seamless blending of drivers possible. The result is an absence of any sudden change in directivity with frequency. This may not mean much for monitors where there is a limited listening area, but in a typical room where a large percentage of the sound is reflected by the room, the effect is dramatic
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited May 2009
    Thanks H9, A good read.

    Scott
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D