Emerald Physics

pearsall001
pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
edited June 2009 in Speakers
Anybody ever get your ears on a pair of these? Intriging design to say the least. If you did hear them...thoughts & opinions on how they sounded.
"2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2009
    I've owned a pair for over a year now. The open-dipole bass is amazing. I most likely will never go back to box speakers. You'd be hard pressed to find a better speaker at many times the price. I just traded my CS2s in to move up the Emmy line. I will be a customer for a long time. The continued customer support is excellent.

    SlowcarIX also has a pair. Haven't heard from him in a while though.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited May 2009
    I knew somebody here had a pair but I wasn't sure. From what I've read they mate superbly with ICE power. And I see you have a pair of W4S monos. I take it that synergy is a foot with that pairing. Awesome sound I can imagine. I've got to get out & give a listen.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,841
    edited May 2009
    I've listened to the CS2's. Could have been the room, gear or set up, but they didn't float my boat. I also understand that the required stock Behringer crossover leaves a lot to be desired and they don't like tube amps, at all.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,820
    edited May 2009
    Yeah, that is probally the one thing I do not like about Emerald -- anything with Behringer associated with it... eh...

    I sell alot of Behringer gear and there is a reason they have a 1 year replacement warranty....

    I replace probally 20 pieces every 2 months. The speakers overall look pretty solid.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2009
    The speakers sound very good when setup properly with the right gear. I've had no issues with the Behringer DCX2496 and have heard of no other Emmy owners having issues. That being said, they are switching to the DBX PX for more processing horsepower and in-room correction.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited May 2009
    I am sorry, behringer is the bose of pro audio, well not exactly as behringer stuff sells very cheap, I have heard though many good things about these Emerald speakers.

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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited May 2009
    Pearsall: Check out my review.
    www.affordableaudio.org/EmeraldPhysicsCS2.pdf

    I had them in for a review for 3 months, when setup properly, they throw out a soundstage that is incredible. My only wish is that I could have heard them with a pair of quality solid state amps rather than class d, which to my ears sound a bit dry and lean. But still, they are stunning.

    As for Behringer, I know that some of their products have a significant failure rate, but the DCX2496 that comes with the EP's has not been a problem. Probably because Clayton Shaw powers up each one in order to program it, therefore weeding out any faulty units.

    They've just released the 2nd generation of three models, the WAF is much, much higher.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,279
    edited May 2009
    For those who have heard them, would you recommend a sub or would you think one would be necessary to complete the spectrum of frequencies? I'm not talking about a PSW10 either.....
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    For those who have heard them, would you recommend a sub or would you think one would be necessary to complete the spectrum of frequencies?

    I have tried REL subs, ML subs, SVS subs, and others. Despite trying to tune them to the room, none of them can produce the same open and articulate bass of the CS2 based on my experience. The sound was just not the same. At any rate, the CS2 provides more than enough bass for music once you get them dialed in.

    My impulse to get a sub was mainly for HT. But, when I would use one for music and then go back to the two speakers alone, I would be reminded of how amazing bass from the CS2 is. It's fast, it's articulate and most importantly it's not a one-note thud.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited May 2009
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Anybody ever get your ears on a pair of these? Intriging design to say the least. If you did hear them...thoughts & opinions on how they sounded.

    i got a paif of cs2 - they throw a soundstage so lucid, on good recordings, its so eerie to have person/instruments distinctly in the listening area. for 2ch listening, they care capable of handling pretty much anything.

    for ht, i let the subs handle the subsonics to 50Hz and the cs2 takes over from there. very dynamic, capable of making one jump in quite a few soundtracks. :D

    must be the dipole design and the direct speaker/amp drive that makes them work so well...idk:confused: i will be keeping them for a long time
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited May 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I've owned a pair for over a year now. The open-dipole bass is amazing. I most likely will never go back to box speakers. You'd be hard pressed to find a better speaker at many times the price. I just traded my CS2s in to move up the Emmy line. I will be a customer for a long time. The continued customer support is excellent.

    SlowcarIX also has a pair. Haven't heard from him in a while though.

    u got the cs1? :eek:

    +1 for cs support from walter and clayton!
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2009
    Nope CS2.3 is on order. The CS2.3 is said to sound better than the CS1 according to Clayton Shaw. The CS3 and CS2.3 have a new technology that will be used to redesign the CS1.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited June 2009
    i'll change to the 2.3 too. the mid/high drive for the 2.3 mains will be coaxial like the one on my jtr 12lf.
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2009
    It's hard to beat the imaging of a good coax, true point source.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited June 2009
    Face wrote: »
    It's hard to beat the imaging of a good coax, true point source.

    have u heard the thiel 3.7 with the interesting mid/hi driver?

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    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2009
    No I haven't, but would love to.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited June 2009
    Check out Hawthorne, too.

    http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/drivers.htm#SI

    I've heard the eminence coaxial units, but this one has the Qt tweaked for OB use.
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  • SlowcarIX
    SlowcarIX Posts: 887
    edited June 2009
    unc2701 wrote: »
    Check out Hawthorne, too.

    http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/drivers.htm#SI

    I've heard the eminence coaxial units, but this one has the Qt tweaked for OB use.

    very interesting - are the hawthorn drivers tweeked eminence units?

    http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/speakers.htm - the duet is very resonably priced, ditch the xover for a dcx2496 and active tri-amp...will be interesting !
    my 7.(1x4) HT setup
    TV - Mitsubishi WD-65734
    AVP / Amp - Onkyo PR-SC885P / D-Sonic 2500-7
    Front - Emerald Physics CS2
    Center - JTR Triple 12LF
    Surround L/R / Back - Polk RTi4 / Polk FXi A4
    Sub - 4 X Hsu ULS15 playing nearfield
    DVD / CDP - Sony PS3/40GB / Sony SCD-XA9000ES
    Belkin PURE AV PF60 / UPS
    Buttkicker

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60612
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited June 2009
    SlowcarIX wrote: »
    very interesting - are the hawthorn drivers tweeked eminence units?

    http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/speakers.htm - the duet is very resonably priced, ditch the xover for a dcx2496 and active tri-amp...will be interesting !

    Yep. And it's my suspicion that the new Emerald 2.3's are based around Eminence coaxial units, too, given the use of the eminence drivers in the CS-2's.


    The Eminence Beta CX models have a lower Qts, so they're questionable for an OB alignment, so Hawthorne talked them into producing one that would work better.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
    Jordan JX92s : MF X-T100 : Xray v8
    Backburner:Krell KAV-300i
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