New Challenger - Cool Weekend Toy
venomclan
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I had access to a new Challenger on Sunday. It is a fun car and I liked the way it drove. It is heavier than its Camaro/Mustang competition and I prefer it's heavyness. It had plenty of power at 380hp. One thing I did not like was the delay in acceleration. It had plenty of Go, but there was a slight delay. I found the same delay in the Hemi-Magnum I drove.
Overall a pretty cool car with sharp looks. $4/Gallon gas would kill it for me though.
Venom
Overall a pretty cool car with sharp looks. $4/Gallon gas would kill it for me though.
Venom
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I had access to a new Challenger on Sunday. It is a fun car and I liked the way it drove. It is heavier than its Camaro/Mustang competition and I prefer it's heavyness. It had plenty of power at 380hp. One thing I did not like was the delay in acceleration. It had plenty of Go, but there was a slight delay. I found the same delay in the Hemi-Magnum I drove.
Overall a pretty cool car with sharp looks. $4/Gallon gas would kill it for me though.
Venom
The exhaust sounds like crap on them though, not sure what they were thinking or hearing when they tested it....
Would be easy to fix but for that amount of money you'd think they would make it sound throatier instead of that terrible rapping sound....Testing
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the hesitation could just be the weight or very well couldd be the car's throttle response. Mustangs had a wierd issue with that too. I put a tune in mine and it went away but fast.
I have no idea if they have aftermarket tuning for that car, but enjoy it stock for a while. dont go nutty until you thoroughly enjoy the car as is.
that car is definitly tubby (i.e. heavy), but it handles more than well enough, and looks sexy as all hell while doing so.
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The exhaust sounds like crap on them though,.
Thats why the good Lord saw fit to create aftermarket exhaust
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I had a friend's SRT-8 Charger for a few months in 07.
I noticed the delay also, I believe it's due to the drive by wire system.
As for the stock exhaust, there's only so much you can do for the sound while cruising due to the cylinder deactivation system. At WOT, it doesn't sound bad."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
They optimize programming for general driving and economy.
A better exhaust and a program update will put a kick into it."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
sucks2beme wrote: »They optimize programming for general driving and economy.
A better exhaust and a program update will put a kick into it.
this is true, but you have to wonder what theyre thinking somethimes.
when I put an intake, tune and 3.73 gears in my Mustang, the mileage actually increased nearly 5 mpg across the board. I can get 26 on the highway cruising in 5th doing up to 80.....it's insane
why would they not do this from the factory...
duh, for 2010 they actually did..LOLLiving Room 2 Channel -
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Actually, I'm betting it's probably the factory tune being set too conservative. The hesitation is probably due to the fuel injectors flooding the chambers to compensate for the overly lean condition that romping on it brings. If not that, it's probably the ignition timing being dialed back until fuel pressure climbs to an adequate point to support the demand on the engine. If not that, the stall speed on the torque converter is probably too high and it takes a while to spin up to lock-up before you launch like a rocket. That's probably the most likely culprit because that would give better fuel mileage
The OEMs typically do such things to save the cars from inexperienced owners and improve fuel efficiency. It keeps warranty claims down and pleases the gubment eco-****.
I wouldn't doubt that Dodge is doing that with any "hot rod" they have.
JDM Engineering in Freehold, a Ford tuner, typically cuts the ignition **** and dials up the fuel pressure under those conditions and can drop almost a second off of your 1/4 mile times by improving your 60 foot time through just tweaking the response time. He's also quite adept at pulling over 60 horses out of the engine easily by just tweaking the Air/Fuel ratio through the entire RPM range. He can improve shift times and line pressures in the trans for harder shifts. All that contributes greatly to response and acceleration times.
As far as the exhaust, yeah, a guy down the street has an aftermarket exhaust on his and the raspy sound doesn't go away. At least they aren't like Vipers and Lamborghinis that sound like tractors with a hot cam. But honestly, none of the new HEMI's sound all that great with an aftermarket exhaust. Flowmasters sound like crap on them. You need a system with a resonator to get the throaty rumble of the Fords and Chevys.
I think they are a good looking car but they looked squashed. Like God took his fingers, put one on the driver's side and the other on the passenger side and pinched it. You set a new Challenger next to an old one and the old one just looks way more aggressive.
Also, I saw a new Challenger on the highway over the weekend. It was passing a Toyota Camry and they were exactly the same height. I was quite surprised at that. A new Mustang and a new Camaro are only about 3/4ths as tall at most. Much better look IMO.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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this is true, but you have to wonder what theyre thinking somethimes.
when I put an intake, tune and 3.73 gears in my Mustang, the mileage actually increased nearly 5 mpg across the board. I can get 26 on the highway cruising in 5th doing up to 80.....it's insane
why would they not do this from the factory...
duh, for 2010 they actually did..LOL
Because you are running much more lean and people who don't pay any mind to their car are more likely to cause damage to the systems by running hot in an overly lean condition due to weather and such. To compensate and make a "safe tune", they fatten up the mixture.
Also, for emissions, your ideal power making tune is not your ideal emissions tune. The ideal emissions tune runs a bit richer and keeps chamber temps down. This keeps the catalyst in your exhaust system from not working properly because the extra heat actually changes the composition of the exhaust gases and can degrade the performance of the catalyst in the catalytic converter(s).Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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I had access to a new Challenger on Sunday. It is a fun car and I liked the way it drove. It is heavier than its Camaro/Mustang competition and I prefer it's heavyness. It had plenty of power at 380hp. One thing I did not like was the delay in acceleration. It had plenty of Go, but there was a slight delay. I found the same delay in the Hemi-Magnum I drove.
Overall a pretty cool car with sharp looks. $4/Gallon gas would kill it for me though.
Venom
I have a 05 Dodge Magnum RT that was like that till it hit 5k in miles. Then it woke up and when I stomp on the gas it jumps!
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the hesitation could just be the weight or very well couldd be the car's throttle response. I have no idea if they have aftermarket tuning for that car, but enjoy it stock for a while. dont go nutty until you thoroughly enjoy the car as is. you'll have a blast with it i'm sure
I think it is the throttle response. Please ntoe that this car is not mine. My father in Law is Sales Manager of a Chrysler dealership. He gets new demoe all the time and shows up with a different car every time we see him.
It is funny because he came by yesterday early and said I have a car outside that I may be interested in. I went outside in my underware and thought, sweet. I was pissed I had to get dressed and was thinking about cruising and letting it all hang out...thuffman03 wrote: »I have a 05 Dodge Magnum RT that was like that till it hit 5k in miles. Then it woke up and when I stomp on the gas it jumps!
Did you test drive the auto or the 6 speed?
It was automatic. I loved the shifter becasue it was like the old style ones, chrome with no button. It also has a push button start, no key needed. Maybe it is still breaking in. Itried to be conservative as it was not my car and had only 150 miles on it. -
The 300's do that as well. I don't know about the break-in period, but the delay has been in every one of the Charger, Magnum, or 300's that I've driven.comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
