Using the SMS-1 to Control the LSi25s
All right, I tried really hard to search for the answer to this, but for some reason it kept giving me no results searching for SMS-1 even though I found threads about them...
I am still trying to decide between the LSi15s and 25s for my mains in a 7.1 set-up. Disregarding that question, I am trying to figure out something about the 25s.
I am currently running an Outlaw 970 to a Outlaw 7700 w/ LSi9s and LSiFXs. My Subs (LFM-1 EX and PSW125) are run using a Velodyne SMS-1. I am planning on upgrading to the Outlaw 997 when it comes out, so this may all be mute w/ the Trinitov Processing, but I thought it was an interesting question.
In all my reading about the LSi25s, those that got them set-up properly liked them a lot, in a few cases, more than the LSi15s they had. Everyone else complains of the powered tower and an inability to get them set-up right.
To help w/ setting them up, What does everyone think about using the SMS-1 to control the powered subs in the 25s? That would allow me to integrate them well w/ the other subs, and the rest of the system. Thoughts?
Would this solve the adjustment and set-up problems?
Thanks,
Ted
I am still trying to decide between the LSi15s and 25s for my mains in a 7.1 set-up. Disregarding that question, I am trying to figure out something about the 25s.
I am currently running an Outlaw 970 to a Outlaw 7700 w/ LSi9s and LSiFXs. My Subs (LFM-1 EX and PSW125) are run using a Velodyne SMS-1. I am planning on upgrading to the Outlaw 997 when it comes out, so this may all be mute w/ the Trinitov Processing, but I thought it was an interesting question.
In all my reading about the LSi25s, those that got them set-up properly liked them a lot, in a few cases, more than the LSi15s they had. Everyone else complains of the powered tower and an inability to get them set-up right.
To help w/ setting them up, What does everyone think about using the SMS-1 to control the powered subs in the 25s? That would allow me to integrate them well w/ the other subs, and the rest of the system. Thoughts?
Would this solve the adjustment and set-up problems?
Thanks,
Ted
HT: Ninja Master LSi9s, Ninja Master LSiC, Slightly Modded LSiFXs, Modded LSi7s, Outlaw LFM-1 EX and Polk PSW125
Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure
Stereo: DIY Alix Music Server, DODD Audio Battery Tube Buffer, Modded DAC-60 and MF V-Link (for now), DIY Silver ICs, Battery Powered Class D SDS-254 Amp, and GR-Research N2X Speakers
Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure
Stereo: DIY Alix Music Server, DODD Audio Battery Tube Buffer, Modded DAC-60 and MF V-Link (for now), DIY Silver ICs, Battery Powered Class D SDS-254 Amp, and GR-Research N2X Speakers
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All right, I tried really hard to search for the answer to this, but for some reason it kept giving me no results searching for SMS-1 even though I found threads about them...
I am still trying to decide between the LSi15s and 25s for my mains in a 7.1 set-up. Disregarding that question, I am trying to figure out something about the 25s.
I am currently running an Outlaw 970 to a Outlaw 7700 w/ LSi9s and LSiFXs. My Subs (LFM-1 EX and PSW125) are run using a Velodyne SMS-1. I am planning on upgrading to the Outlaw 997 when it comes out, so this may all be mute w/ the Trinitov Processing, but I thought it was an interesting question.
In all my reading about the LSi25s, those that got them set-up properly liked them a lot, in a few cases, more than the LSi15s they had. Everyone else complains of the powered tower and an inability to get them set-up right.
To help w/ setting them up, What does everyone think about using the SMS-1 to control the powered subs in the 25s? That would allow me to integrate them well w/ the other subs, and the rest of the system. Thoughts?
Would this solve the adjustment and set-up problems?
Thanks,
Ted
The SMS-1 is only meant to EQ one sub. You can chain multiple SMS-1's together. -
^^^^Incorrect, while it does not apply individual compensation, a single SMS-1 can tailor the sound of as many subs as you have. The modifications will simply be global modifications.HT: Ninja Master LSi9s, Ninja Master LSiC, Slightly Modded LSiFXs, Modded LSi7s, Outlaw LFM-1 EX and Polk PSW125
Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure
Stereo: DIY Alix Music Server, DODD Audio Battery Tube Buffer, Modded DAC-60 and MF V-Link (for now), DIY Silver ICs, Battery Powered Class D SDS-254 Amp, and GR-Research N2X Speakers -
^^^^Incorrect, while it does not apply individual compensation, a single SMS-1 can tailor the sound of as many subs as you have. The modifications will simply be global modifications.
The SMS-1 can only EQ 1 'sub'. Be that a physical single sub, or an array. Velodyne allows you to chain units together because some people will want to apply individual correction to each distinct sub.
I am speaking about individual compensation, you are talking about correcting the room with both subs going at the same time and letting the SMS-1 make a best, overall guess.
Either approach is valid. Just depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to spend.
To the OP: You can use the SMS-1 to EQ both your subs. It will figure out a room average and apply it. If you want more control and feel like spending the $$ you can set up a house curve for each sub independently. -
I would absolutely try it and see what you think, I personally like the powered subs Polk has put out and owned most of them as well.
For HT I would think your Outlaw gear works well with the Lsi line-up, have you checked out the new Polk subs, I have listened to several and they are quite nice.
RT1 -
LSi15s and one SVS PB13U would hold you over for a very long time and you wouldnt even need to consider the 25s.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580 -
To the OP: You can use the SMS-1 to EQ both your subs. It will figure out a room average and apply it. If you want more control and feel like spending the $$ you can set up a house curve for each sub independently.
Jinjuku,
Praedet is the OP himself!Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
If you do not have a SMS-1 yet I suggest looking at Room Eq Wizard (REW free at hometheatershack.com) and a BFD1124F has 2 channels and would allow you to manage filters for 2 subs independently.
All for less than $100 assuming you have a radio shack SPL meter, RCA cables and a PC sound card that supports MIC in.
Granted it is not as easy as SMS but I figured it out using 3 subs so anyone can do it.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
I have SMS-1 to control over all the subs in my HT room. I also have a pair of LSi25 but I used one PSW1000 for each tower. Instead of the SMS-1, I think using one dedicated sub with each channel (left and right) yields a lot better result and deeper bass. Subs in the LSi25 alone good but not getting a lot better with SMS-1. However, it gets a lot better if you use stereo subs with the LSi25.
Just the results of my findings....Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
I am not going to be getting rid of the Subs I do have, I was more speaking towards using the SMS-1 I already have to possibly take over the bass properties of the LSi25...HT: Ninja Master LSi9s, Ninja Master LSiC, Slightly Modded LSiFXs, Modded LSi7s, Outlaw LFM-1 EX and Polk PSW125
Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure
Stereo: DIY Alix Music Server, DODD Audio Battery Tube Buffer, Modded DAC-60 and MF V-Link (for now), DIY Silver ICs, Battery Powered Class D SDS-254 Amp, and GR-Research N2X Speakers