poll-which sub to buy

bevo
bevo Posts: 306
I have asked about these subs before, but figured a poll would give the best advice for which to buy.
I really want to have a musical sub more than anything. I listen to tool, pearl jam, pantera, and pretty much anything else 90's and rock.
It would be nice if it hit low and hard for movies to though. I guess I want the most well rounded of subs.
Denon 1909, want to upgrade for pre outs
Fronts-polk RTi A5
center-polk CSi A4
Sides Polk FXi A6
rears- polk rm8's
sub-SVS pb-13 ultra
Blue ray-ps3
Panasonic plasma 50 inch
Buttkicker(don't use or need it anymore since getting the Ultra)
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  • oifvet0608
    oifvet0608 Posts: 148
    edited April 2009
    I would either go with the SVS or a Velodyne. I listen to the same kind of music you do and I have a Velo...I love it. You get what you pay for.
    Receiver: Marantz SR7002
    Fronts: Canton Chrono 509 DC
    Center: Canton Chrono 505 CM
    Surrounds: Canton Chrono 502 SP
    Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
    TV: 40" 1080i JVC Multisystem LCD(upgrading to 50" Samsung LED)
    Blu-Ray: PS3
    DVD: Pioneer DV-420V (HDMI)(for PAL DVD's)
    Audio/Music: MacBook Pro hooked up thru HDMI
    Gaming: PS3 (oifvet0608) XBOX 360 (JAYtheVET)
    Cables: Inakoustik Reference
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    If that SVS is in the same price range...I'd go with that. I also like Velodynes but I run a Boston A. (it's OK...better with music than HT)

    The problem is that for what you can get the PSW505 these days it's a best buy. You could get 2 for the same price as the others?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited April 2009
    Dang! It looks like an SVS landslide...
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited April 2009
    Go for the SVS subwoofer!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2009
  • Jeb85
    Jeb85 Posts: 39
    edited April 2009
  • donedroolin
    donedroolin Posts: 225
    edited April 2009
    Thier is only one brand of sub to buy, and it is VELODYNE!!!!!!. Listen these guys know, you will not be disapointed. VELODYNE makes AWSOME subs. Check out thier web site I am sure you can find one to fit your budget. How can you even do a poll and not have the BEST brand in subs listed. VELODYNE!!!!!!!, VELODYNE. EXCEPT NO OTHER!!!!!!!!!!
    TV- 52 inch LCD SONY BRAVIA XBR6
    TV- 42 inch PLASMA HITACHI ULTRA VISION
    AMP- PARASOUND HALO A-51
    CONTROLLER- PARASOUND HALO C-2
    FRONT SPEAKERS- LSi15's and LSiC
    REAR SPEAKERS- LSi7's
    SUBWOOFER- VELODYNE DD15
    BLU RAY- LG SUPER BLU BH200
    BLU RAY- SONY BDPS350
    GAME SYSTEM- NINTENDO Wii
    MONSTER POWER CONDITIONER
    WIRES- AUDIO QUEST and MONSTER
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited April 2009
    Thier is only one brand of sub to buy, and it is VELODYNE!!!!!!. Listen these guys know, you will not be disapointed. VELODYNE makes AWSOME subs. Check out thier web site I am sure you can find one to fit your budget. How can you even do a poll and not have the BEST brand in subs listed. VELODYNE!!!!!!!, VELODYNE. EXCEPT NO OTHER!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude you work for Velodyne or something? Im not knocking them. They make a decent sub but have you ever heard a SVS?
    Life without music would
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2009
    Pauly wrote: »
    Dude you work for Velodyne or something? Im not knocking them. They make a decent sub but have you ever heard a SVS?


    Or EPIK
  • bevo
    bevo Posts: 306
    edited April 2009
    If anyone knows of a 600$ or less velodyne or epik that would compare to the SVS, the model name and number would really help me out. Right now though it looks like the SVS is going to be in my system. It's been a landslide so far.
    Denon 1909, want to upgrade for pre outs
    Fronts-polk RTi A5
    center-polk CSi A4
    Sides Polk FXi A6
    rears- polk rm8's
    sub-SVS pb-13 ultra
    Blue ray-ps3
    Panasonic plasma 50 inch
    Buttkicker(don't use or need it anymore since getting the Ultra)
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited April 2009
    Sorry, but it looks like the lowest cost Epik (the sealed Vanquish) is out of your price range.

    I'd chime in about Epik as I have their Valor.

    You may want to also check on Elemental Designs - they have good 'net cred' for value subs in your price range.

    fwiw,

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2009
    You could check out the Elemental Design A3-300

    They are into using 'green' materials also. Like SVS they cut and assembled in the U.S. It's possible that some of the components are made overseas. But that is most likely the case with most.
  • donedroolin
    donedroolin Posts: 225
    edited April 2009
    No I do not work for VELODYNE this is my second sub made by them and they are GREAT subs. SVS I have heard makes GREAT sub also. The problem I had was thier is no place to go to demo them. I am not knockimg SVS at all. I would say buy the most BOOM!! for your money and SVS make decent , good priced subs. But if you can I would purchase a VELODYNE. Thats just one guys opinion. Good Luck with what ever you buy. But do check out Velodyne's web sit they even have a way to help you choose a Sub that will work for your needs on the site.
    TV- 52 inch LCD SONY BRAVIA XBR6
    TV- 42 inch PLASMA HITACHI ULTRA VISION
    AMP- PARASOUND HALO A-51
    CONTROLLER- PARASOUND HALO C-2
    FRONT SPEAKERS- LSi15's and LSiC
    REAR SPEAKERS- LSi7's
    SUBWOOFER- VELODYNE DD15
    BLU RAY- LG SUPER BLU BH200
    BLU RAY- SONY BDPS350
    GAME SYSTEM- NINTENDO Wii
    MONSTER POWER CONDITIONER
    WIRES- AUDIO QUEST and MONSTER
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2009
    Another sub that has been well received is the MFW-15 from AV123 for $699 (budgets were meant to be stretched).

    I hesitate to post this though since AV123 is waiting for an updated AMP (they had some hum issues with the first AMP design). They say 4-6 weeks.

    Check out the VTF-2 MK 3 from HSU Research.

    $549 + $59 to ship.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2009
    Of those choices SVS is the obvious sub to take. Other alternatives at that price point are the Outlaw LFM (EX or Plus, I can't remember) or the Hsu VTF 2.3. The SVS will have more output/visceral impact than either though I think they are slightly cheaper. The ED sub, A3/300 has an improved finish and amp and will probably be just as loud as the SVS. The SVS should have a flatter response and better upper bass resolution, but that's just a guess. For $500 shipped, it's an excellent value.

    Velodyne makes great subs, but they don't offer a model at $600 that can touch the ones I mentioned above. Their retail subs sound better than most of the retail competition for SQ (maybe not the new Polks), but not against the ID brands. Their dealer models are another story, but even they aren't apples to apples, being small, sealed and feature rich vs. fairly large and mostly ported.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited April 2009
    I voted SVS, just because your choice selection is so poor 'Polk-SVS-Others'.

    If you want to go with a major brand, try Velodyne. IMHO, in the mass-production consumer market their price to performance ratio is awesome, not to mention that Velo makes amazing subs. I would also look into buying HSU sub.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
  • Chameleon2
    Chameleon2 Posts: 112
    edited April 2009
    ViperZ wrote: »
    ....If you want to go with a major brand, try Velodyne....

    which model in this price range?
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited April 2009
    Maybe a Paradigm DSP-3200
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • bevo
    bevo Posts: 306
    edited April 2009
    ViperZ wrote: »
    I voted SVS, just because your choice selection is so poor 'Polk-SVS-Others'.

    If you want to go with a major brand, try Velodyne. IMHO, in the mass-production consumer market their price to performance ratio is awesome, not to mention that Velo makes amazing subs. I would also look into buying HSU sub.

    If you would give me a model of velodyne close to my price range I would definitely check them out.
    Really I just have no way of hearing any subs, so I want all the help I can get. I want the best sub for my money. It would be nice if it sounded real too. Most subs I have heard do not sound like a kick drum whenever they play music. I really want a sub that sounds great to add to my RTi A5's.
    Denon 1909, want to upgrade for pre outs
    Fronts-polk RTi A5
    center-polk CSi A4
    Sides Polk FXi A6
    rears- polk rm8's
    sub-SVS pb-13 ultra
    Blue ray-ps3
    Panasonic plasma 50 inch
    Buttkicker(don't use or need it anymore since getting the Ultra)
  • oifvet0608
    oifvet0608 Posts: 148
    edited April 2009
    http://shop4.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&query_string=velodyne&cat=29791&submit.x=9&submit.y=11

    This is just fry's but I'm sure you can find them other places as well.

    2 impact 10's would be more than you would ever need.

    Try velodyne.com and look them up, you will not be sorry you did.
    Receiver: Marantz SR7002
    Fronts: Canton Chrono 509 DC
    Center: Canton Chrono 505 CM
    Surrounds: Canton Chrono 502 SP
    Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
    TV: 40" 1080i JVC Multisystem LCD(upgrading to 50" Samsung LED)
    Blu-Ray: PS3
    DVD: Pioneer DV-420V (HDMI)(for PAL DVD's)
    Audio/Music: MacBook Pro hooked up thru HDMI
    Gaming: PS3 (oifvet0608) XBOX 360 (JAYtheVET)
    Cables: Inakoustik Reference
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited April 2009
    SVS gets the vote here. I'd like to sit in a room with Dual Gothams or quad Ultras and just let them hold me hostage to extreme pressurization.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580
  • NewHTguy
    NewHTguy Posts: 584
    edited April 2009
    Getting to this thread a little late. Love my Velo SPL-1200R. Very musical, which is why I bought it. The piano black finish is also very cool. Matches my Samsung LCD and Lsi25s. Now that I have have the Lsi25s the Velo is a little overkill but I still love it. Two would be better but my fiance would probably leave me!
    MAIN: Polk Lsi9s; Polk PSW505; Lsic (in box); Onkyo SR-875; Parasound 2250; Cambridge Audio 740C; LG BD370
    OFFICE: Polk Lsi7; REL T3; HK 3490; CA 840W; Onkyo C-S5VL
    BENCHED: CS20; OWM3s
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited April 2009
    Get a used VMPS and an Amp to drive it. You can do that for $600.
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited April 2009
    I say go all the way with the SVS PB-13 Ultra:D
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited April 2009
    danz1906 wrote: »
    I say go all the way with the SVS PB-13 Ultra:D

    Oh just admit it! You have Ultra envy and you know it...;)
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited April 2009
    Oh just admit it! You have Ultra envy and you know it...;)

    Yep, You caught me:p
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited April 2009
    Got this from SVS and Hometheatershack today. Looks like a good deal to me.

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    The new PB12-Plus is an evolutionary step up in every regard, even considering its legendary predecessor. Borrowing liberally from the phenomenally successful bigger brother, the PB13-Ultra, we've brought new tuning modes, a fresh look and once again out did the only competition we typically have. Us. Affordable audio gear usually has no business being this good.

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    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • bevo
    bevo Posts: 306
    edited April 2009
    I may be getting ready to take out a loan for an RV. We bought one last year but have had many problems with it so far, and I think they might refund our money toward another camper. If they do, I'm taking out 2 grand extra, and buying the ultra. I'm going to talk to the RV dealer tomorrow and see what they say about taking it back on a trade in.

    Wish me luck. The look on my wife's face will be priceless when she sees how big the pb-13 ultra is. I'd say I will be pretty surprised too, when the sub is all I have left after she kicks me out. I hope it's big enough to block some of the wind, when I'm sleeping outside. It gets pretty cold at night still in ohio.
    Denon 1909, want to upgrade for pre outs
    Fronts-polk RTi A5
    center-polk CSi A4
    Sides Polk FXi A6
    rears- polk rm8's
    sub-SVS pb-13 ultra
    Blue ray-ps3
    Panasonic plasma 50 inch
    Buttkicker(don't use or need it anymore since getting the Ultra)
  • selkec
    selkec Posts: 187
    edited May 2009
    Forget any Polk sub. Look at SVS, HSU Research, Epik, elemental designs, AV123 MFW-15. Dont get me wrong I love Polk speakers. But there are many better choices for subs. Just my opinion.
  • bevo
    bevo Posts: 306
    edited May 2009
    Well, I went with SVS, but bot the pb12 NSD. I decided to go all the way, and get the ultra. My upgrade bug should be cured for awhile, at least as far as a sub goes. I should get it sometime next week, since SVS is in my home state.

    I'll post back and let everyone know what I think of it. Since my current sub is the psw111, I imagine I will be blown away.
    Denon 1909, want to upgrade for pre outs
    Fronts-polk RTi A5
    center-polk CSi A4
    Sides Polk FXi A6
    rears- polk rm8's
    sub-SVS pb-13 ultra
    Blue ray-ps3
    Panasonic plasma 50 inch
    Buttkicker(don't use or need it anymore since getting the Ultra)