Cassette Still Lives

skrol
skrol Posts: 3,381
edited April 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
I finally finished tweaking up my old Pioneer CT-6R cassette deck. I replaced the belts, cleaned and lubed the mechanisms, dialed the azimuth in just right, went through the calibrations and gave it an 8 hour run. It works and sounds great.

While digging through some more of my old stuff, I found a TDK MA (metal) cassette that I had recorded with the CT-6R of Yes "Fragile" off vinyl back in 1989. What a blast from the past. I popped it into the CT-6R and gave a listen. First of all, I was surprised that the tape was still in good condition. I have had other old tapes that end up with wavering drop-outs in the highs and bleed-throughs. Not this tape. The recording is still very detailed with good tonality, not to mention that I forgot how much I enjoyed early Yes.

I had never been a real fan of the metal tapes. I usually preferred the chrome oxide tapes (TDK SA, SA-X or Maxell XL-II, XL-IIS). Is longevity one of the benefits of the metal tapes vs other formulations?

Anyone else out there still using cassettes?

Stan
Stan

Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited April 2009
    I had a long love affair with my tapes as a collector of live shows. I still had a sweet deck too. I gave all the tapes away and sold the deck on ebay for $30

    The other options are very cheap and the tapes were easily replaced.

    Power to you forstill pullin the ol' tape flip! Enjoy! I never used metal tapes

    XL IIs always!
    Analog Source: Rega P3-24 Exact 2 w/GT delrin platter & Neo TT-PSU Digital Source: Lumin T2 w/Roon (NUC) DAC: Denafrips Pontus II Phono Preamp: Rega Aria MK3 Preamp: Rogue RP-7 Amp: Pass X150.8 Speakers: Joseph Audio Perspective 2, Audio Physic Tempo Plus Cables: Morrow M4 ICs & Audio Art SC-5 ePlus, Shunyata PCs Misc: Shunyata Hydra Delta D6, VTI rack, GIK acoustic panels
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited April 2009
    My dad is rediscovering his cassettes ever since the CD player in his Subaru quit working :p
    Ludicrous gibs!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2009
    dbx II noise reduction gave cassettes (players that featured it) and reel to reels a stay of execution for a few years. It worked far better than Dolby.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited April 2009
    Yes! I have a Yamaha TC-320 cassette deck in my retro rig. No digital in this rig as it didn't exist at the time (1976). I also have a Yamaha TT attached, but out of the picture. I have a needs work 3 head Yamaha TC-720 cassette deck on the way.

    http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp260/scompracer/Retro/cass_2sm.jpg

    I had a Nakamichi BX-2 at home, but it is in my work system since the Denon cassette deck died.
    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,381
    edited April 2009
    SCompRacer, that is a nice classic rig!
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited April 2009
    Thanks skrol! It ain't as pretty as Marantz gear, but it is inexpensive and sounds good. I have $195 in the pictured integrated amp, tuner and cassette deck. Speakers are Polk Monitor 7's.
    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited April 2009
    skrol wrote: »
    SCompRacer, that is a nice classic rig!

    Nice setup, that Yamaha CA-800 looks familiar!
  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited April 2009
    I still run Naks and Teac cassette decks in my system. Good recording qualities with chrome and excellent sound reproduction.
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited April 2009
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    Nice setup, that Yamaha CA-800 looks familiar!

    Thanks! It ought to. Out of respect and appreciation, I never even cleaned your finger prints off it.:D I thank you again for making it available. It raised the bar for condition of the other pieces.
    Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    I just had my AIWA 3 head Cassette player refurbed by a professional. Sounds like new. Still have a couple hundred tapes. There was a time when AIWA actually made some real equipment? They're gone now, of course.

    Not sure about the metal tape thing. What do you guys think, after all the specs say that Type IV tape has higher frequency responses and a lower noise floor? The other thing is that it's tough to get some 'old' recordings today? I do remember a couple of companies having limited lifetime warranties on those Metal Tapes, though?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2009
    I am in the process of taking my Sony TC-K670 3 head, 3 motor closed-loop dual capstan cassette deck out of retirement. It will be serviced and bring up to spec by a professional. My favorite blank cassette of all-time is the Sony UX-Pro....the one with the ceramic tape guides. Of course, the Sony "Metal Master" was the ultimate blank cassette; I still have 3 of these sealed.

    Otherwise, I still used a bright-yellow Sony "Sports" cassette Walkman with Dolby NR. Just listened to a 1986 pre-recorded tape on it 2 nights ago (using Sennheiser PX-100 as headphones)....still sounds good. I still have over 300 pre-recorded cassettes stored in 2 giant Case-Logic tape carriers.

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,808
    edited April 2009
    Never really cared much for cassettes or cassette decks, 'cept the ones I truly couldn't afford (N-A-K-...). I have a couple of nice ones now, but only because they were cheap or free. I don't really use 'em.

    I DO have dubbed cassettes I made in the 1970s (on a Yamaha TC-511S I bought used in college) that still sound good and in many cases are music I never acquired legitimately, umm, I mean, in other formats... I mean, umm...
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2009
    a couple years ago I rediscovered by cassettes, after a few short days I played a record and a SACD ending the nostalgia, keeping my memories in black white where we know they look best...............no clue where the cassettes and player are today.

    RT1
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited April 2009
    Still diggin' on my Denon DRW-580. Smooth as silk and still sounding good.
    XL-IIs all the way. I also enjoy listening to my Pioneer 707 reel to reel.
    Lightman
    and I have been warned.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2009
    I had a Teac Z-6000 cassette deck in the day, and later a Teac X2000RBL reel to reel with dbx pro nosie reduction. If you do a search on vintage equipment you'll see my X2000RBL.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited April 2009
    I still have a onkyo, JVC, and a scott deck. ok and like 50 or 60 boomboxes. Actually there is quite a few out there that collect boomboxes! stereo2go.com NO www


    Boomboxes cassette, and walkmans on that site
    Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited April 2009
    erniejade wrote: »
    I still have a onkyo, JVC, and a scott deck. ok and like 50 or 60 boomboxes. Actually there is quite a few out there that collect boomboxes! stereo2go.com NO www


    Boomboxes cassette, and walkmans on that site

    Careful......:cool:
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,808
    edited April 2009
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2009
    That's a NICE one there!

    And way above (Naka....michi...yeah those were great decks!)

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,808
    edited April 2009
    Sorry, that's a Pioneer TC-1000 :-P Don't mind me...

    Here are the innards of the TC-1000 and the outards and innards of a Yamaha CT-1000, just for shoots and Googles.
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited April 2009
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Ct-1000
    A tip of the hat to you, MR H.
  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited April 2009
    kyocera ... sparingly used ...