An AudioGon rant....

nooshinjohn
nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
edited April 2009 in The Clubhouse
I want to freeking kill this guy! The following is a transcript of an Email exchange with an **** that cannot take no for an answer...

Hi,
Would you consider an offer of $1,350.00?

Me..sorry, but I won't even dignify that with a response. Try getting anything
close to what this amp offers for less than $3500.00.... good luck!

he sent this link to Ebay, in which a 5channel sold for rediculous cheap...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=150336601626

me...so... there have been 5 channels selling there in far worse shape for 2k as well
that guy just got lucky... the answer to 1350 is no way...

him...No problem but you need to look around and see the real prices of what these amps are now bringing I have seen several on ebay going for under $1,500.00!!!

me...mine is a seven channel, not a five channel, and I wont sell it on ebay...stop wasting my time!

him... I put the word out at Agon. GOOD LUCK SELLING YOUR AMP!!

WTF!!!! is wrong with people these days. I refused to give in to his rediculous offer so he trashes my sale?!:mad: To bad you cannot punch people in the face via an online connection...
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited April 2009
    I get that kind of crap all the time, I say firm, dont make any offers and some dips**t will throw me an offer. I was selling some klipsch speakers for 200 and had some guy tell me he got some just like mine for 125. I said that was a hell of a deal but no way will I take less than 200. So he got all mad and put his on there for 150 just so iIwould not be able to sell mine and even told me to go f*** myself in his add, some people!
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009
    Just curious why are you selling this amp?



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited April 2009
    I got it to enhance the entire system and was hoping it would really shine with two channel as well. turns out that I prefer the older TFM-35 two channel amp over the Sunfire, so I am going to get silver7/9t's for the mains, an A753 for the center/surrounds and a TFM-45 for the rear, all Carver of course.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I got it to enhance the entire system and was hoping it would really shine with two channel as well. turns out that I prefer the older TFM-35 two channel amp over the Sunfire, so I am going to get silver7/9t's for the mains, an A753 for the center/surrounds and a TFM-45 for the rear, all Carver of course.
    Interesting choices. You do realize that all of these different amps are going to sound different? Not telling you what to do but you may be better off purchasing 3 more TFM-35's or keeping the TFM-35 for the mains and getting one more for the center and getting TFM-15's or 25's if you want for the surrounds. In my oppinion the TFM-35 is more amp than you will ever use for any of your speakers and your surrounds side and rear most likely will never use 100 watts.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,460
    edited April 2009
    WTF!!!! is wrong with people these days. I refused to give in to his rediculous offer so he trashes my sale?! To bad you cannot punch people in the face via an online connection...

    Yes it is as I'm sure you'd have a broken nose by now. This one reminds me of that Carver thread you started. Enough of the drama queen stuff.
    I put the word out at Agon.

    And how do you suppose he is going to do that, start a discussion thread about it? Well, he can't do that, the mods will not allow it.

    Here's a tip for future reference. If you don't like the offer, decline it and stop responding to further emails from that person. Simple, eh!?!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2009
    Jesse's last sentence sums it up.

    Good luck with your sale.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,679
    edited April 2009
    Would you consider an offer of $1400 ?

















    :o
    Sal Palooza
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited April 2009
    That's what I'm not getting. Why are you acknowledging the guy? He doesn't want to pay? F#ck 'im, someone will, eventually...
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2009
    You could have also just said, "No thanks but I appreciate the offer." It's not that hard to do and your price is high but that's just me.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2009
    Yup. "I desperately need attention" nooshinjohn is a fool.

    Another "hey, I'm here, look at me" stupid thread.
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited April 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    You could have also just said, "No thanks but I appreciate the offer."






    Bingo.





    Nick
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited April 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Yes it is as I'm sure you'd have a broken nose by now. This one reminds me of that Carver thread you started. Enough of the drama queen stuff.



    And how do you suppose he is going to do that, start a discussion thread about it? Well, he can't do that, the mods will not allow it.

    Here's a tip for future reference. If you don't like the offer, decline it and stop responding to further emails from that person. Simple, eh!?!


    here is what I don't get.... everyone posting before Jesse was cool and had no trouble with my post. After Jesse, everybody comes down on me with the BS that seems to run rampant around here from time to time.... Jesse are you that much of an **** all the time?... yes. And with exception to George, the rest of you follow so closely behind that you collectively sniff his **** at the same time? All you guys are a buch of suck-ups-GET A LIFE! And Jesse, half the flaming that I have seen happen here on this forum would stop if you could find a way to get back on the Ritalin. If you bothered to read at all you would see that this thread and the Carver thread are entirely unrelated. Even the carver thread was going well until your sicophants got ahold of it. I respect you for your knowlege and your insight, but your elevator does not leave the bottom floor sometimes.
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  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited April 2009
    If it's any consolation, I think this post was stupid from the beginning. I really get annoyed when someone **** about low ball offers. JUST IGNORE THEM IF YOUR PRICE IS FIRM! It's that simple. It should have been clear by the first email that the buyer was extremely price sensitive.

    Another thing, how many other offers have you gotten? If you've gotten higher offers, you ought to just ignore it.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited April 2009
    I've gotten a few offers, but am not in a big rush to sell. Someone offered 1700 and I turned that down as well. the trouble with this guy is that every 30 minutes he sends me an email whether I respond or not, telling me I am an **** for wanting to muchand basically trying to bully me into his price... I had more of it but deleted them as soon as they came in. I have his crap tagged as spam now... I have seen others post similar threads here without the negativity so thought I could do the same. Guess the difference is that I did not check it with Jesse and the Suckup Gang first....
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited April 2009
    I had my Placette at an already give-away price on audiogon (not a "obo" ad), and of course an ****-clown sends an email "I'll give ya 500 if you pay shipping"

    I responded "I bet you will, and the price is firm."

    Low-ballers are a fact of life, they're fishing for a desperation sale.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009
    I know it's frustrating when someone offers you less than what you feel your item is worth but if you have OBO in the title people will try to cheap out as much as possible it's human nature. No biggie send the fellow a ROTFLMAO smiley, block further emails and move on.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2009
    If you don't feed into a low baller with back and forth emails, you won't have any trouble.
    Jake
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,151
    edited April 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    ... And with exception to George, the rest of you follow so closely behind that you collectively sniff his **** at the same time? All you guys are a buch of suck-ups-GET A LIFE! ...
    Dude! You just wouldn't be posting such things if you only knew how wonderful the aroma of the presidential posterior actually is. That's why we all love it back here, you should try it!

    Good luck with your sale, BTW, and the other stuff too.
    Alea jacta est!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited April 2009
    lmao^^^
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2009
    Did you pay that much for that amp nooshinjohnny? Looks like you got screwed.

    If I were you I would take that $1,350.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited April 2009
    actually no, I did not get screwed as you put it. I paid FMV for it and am asking about the same, leaving room for a bit of negotiation...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    What's a "sicophants "?
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,079
    edited April 2009
    It was me making the lowball offer noo, I just did it to get on your nerves. My bad.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2009
    i like to eff with low ball buyers.. I tell them ok you can have the amp for $1,350 but shipping is $2,000. Still want it? LOL
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  • xj4094dg
    xj4094dg Posts: 1,158
    edited April 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    What's a "sicophants "?

    Funny! This place can be F-ing brutal, entertaining, but brutal.
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited April 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    What's a "sicophants "?

    It means I know a word that no one else cares to know. It is an attempt to sound smart.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    It means I know a word that no one else cares to know. It is an attempt to sound smart.

    From Dictionary.com (another tool that's easy to use but nobody ever does):
    No results found for sicophants:
    Did you mean sycophants (in dictionary) or Sycophant (in reference)?

    For sycophant
    syc·o·phant n. A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people.

    Reference.com on Sycophant:
    Sycophant

    A sycophant (from the Greek συκοφάντης sykophántēs) is a servile person who, acting in his or her own self interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential persons, with an undertone that these actions are executed at the cost of his or her own personal pride, principles, and peer respect. Such a manner is called obsequiousness.

    In ancient Greece the word was the Athenian counterpart of the Roman delator, a public informer. In modern Greek the term has retained its ancient classical meaning, and is still used to describe a slanderer or a calumniator.
    Etymology

    According to ancient authorities, the word (derived by them from συκος sykos, "fig", and φανης fanēs, "to show") meant one who informed against another for exporting figs (which was forbidden by law) or for stealing the fruit of the sacred fig-trees, whether in time of famine or on any other occasion (Plutarch, Life of Solon, 24, 2.). The Oxford English Dictionary, however, states that this explanation, though common, "cannot be substantiated", and suggests that it may refer instead to the insulting gesture of "making a fig" or to an obscene alternate meaning for "fig", namely sykon, which means ****.

    Another old explanation was that fines and taxes were at one time paid in apples, wine and oil, and those who collected such payments in kind were often called sycophants because they publicly handed them in.
    Popular culture

    * In Obert Skye's Leven Thumps series of children's books, "sycophant" also refers to a race of small furry creatures whose job is to aid people who have entered Foo.

    Depending on which word he meant to speel correctly, I gotta give him credit for using a 50 cent word like that. Then again, the speeling is close to psychopath and phonetically similar. If he meant that, then, well, he should bookmark dictionary.com
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,460
    edited April 2009
    I don't take the elevator, I levitate.

    Anyway, don't get mad just because I pointed out the obvious.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited April 2009
    You guys are f3cked up. Guy looks for a little sympathy and what does he get??

    BTW, crybaby, if you ask around, you won't find many folks who would call me a sycophant. But I like your style...
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited April 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Here's a tip for future reference. If you don't like the offer, decline it and stop responding to further emails from that person. Simple, eh!?!

    Bingo!!! We have a Winner!!

    Why anyone would engage with a buyer like this is beyond me......you owe him no explanation after his first response.

    H9
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