So much for your food garden....

treitz3

Check this out. Now I think lawmakers have really gone off the deep end. At a time where money is tight and many folks around my parts are starting to grow their own food to save money, lawmakers step in to prevent it.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875

The Fed now wants to control what kind of garden you can grow in your yard. This will end growing your own food and then selling or even sharing it with somebody else. This kind of control has to stop before we lose all of our freedoms.

dkg999

A brief read of the opening sections seems to point it more towards commercial agriculture, of which your backyard garden is not. A more thurough read is needed, as it probably has a clause banning the use of firearms to protect your backyard garden from pests! Dem gubnit people are a sneaky bunch!

treitz3

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-organic-farming

Some people are trying to stop it. Read the above link and then form your own opinion.

treitz3

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John30_30

treitz3 wrote: »

Check this out. Now I think lawmakers have really gone off the deep end. At a time where money is tight and many folks around my parts are starting to grow their own food to save money, lawmakers step in to prevent it.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875

The Fed now wants to control what kind of garden you can grow in your yard. This will end growing your own food and then selling or even sharing it with somebody else. This kind of control has to stop before we lose all of our freedoms.

Would you mind quoting those parts specifically?
It's about regulating the foodstuffs that have been turning up with e-coli, best I can get from it.

treitz3

Is it?

http://theintelhub.com/2010/09/14/georgia-man-fined-5000-for-growing-vegetables/

punk-roc

to continue the web-link game.. here's a link that doesn't seem to think its all that scary.. I have no horse in this race though, so"no affial" applies

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/law-farmers-market-vendor-million-fine.php?dcitc=daily_nl

and here's factcheck.org's blurb about it..

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/would_a_new_bill_in_congress_make.html

cfrizz

Jesus will you people quit it already! Just a quick scan shows me they want stricter control over COMMERCIAL foodstuffs. No mention at all about your damn garden!

If you are this unhappy about what America is doing, feel free to move to another country where you will have it better!

SEC. 2. FINDINGS; PURPOSES.

(a) Findings- Congress finds that--

(1) the safety of the food supply of the United States is vital to the public health, to public confidence in the food supply, and to the success of the food sector of the Nation’s economy;

(2) lapses in the protection of the food supply and loss of public confidence in food safety are damaging to consumers and the food industry, and place a burden on interstate commerce and international trade;

(3) recent ongoing events demonstrate that the food safety program at the Food and Drug Administration is not effective in controlling hazards in food coming from farms and factories in the United States and food and food ingredients coming from foreign countries, and these events have adversely affected consumer confidence;

(4) the safety and security of the food supply require a systemwide approach to prevent food-borne illness involving the integrated efforts of Federal, State and local agencies; a thorough, broad-based, and coordinated approach to basic and applied science; and intensive, effective, and efficient management of the Nation’s food safety program;

(5) the task of preserving the safety of the food supply of the United States faces tremendous pressures with regard to--

(A) emerging pathogens and other contaminants and the ability to detect all forms of contamination;

(B) the threat of intentional contamination of the food supply;

(C) a growing number of people at high risk for food-borne illnesses, including an increasing population of aging and immune-compromised consumers, together with infants and children;

(D) an increasing volume of imported food, without adequate monitoring, inspection, and systems for prevention of food safety problems; and

(E) maintenance of rigorous inspection of the domestic food processing and food service industries;

F1nut

introduced by Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.)

Yep, we should all be concerned.

dkg999

Cathy - with all due respect, the definitions of the entities covered are a little troublesome. I agree that this isn't going to keep you from having a private garden and growing your own food for your families use and enjoyment. Based on the definitions it could impact anyone growing food and selling it at those roadside vegetable stands we all love to stop at in the late summer and fall. You might be surprised what is defined as a "farm" at the state level!

From the bill:

5) CATEGORY 1 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 1 food establishment’ means a food establishment (other than a seafood processing establishment) that slaughters, for the purpose of producing food, animals that are not subject to inspection under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or poultry that are not subject to inspection under the Poultry Products Inspection Act.

(6) CATEGORY 2 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 2 food establishment’ means a seafood processing establishment or other food establishment (other than a category 1 establishment) not subject to inspection under the Federal Meat Inspection Act, the Poultry Products Inspection Act, or the Egg Products Inspection Act, that processes raw seafood or other raw animal products, whether fresh or frozen, or other products that the Administrator determines by regulation to pose a significant risk of hazardous contamination.

(7) CATEGORY 3 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 3 food establishment’ means a food establishment (other than a category 1 or category 2 establishment) that processes cooked, pasteurized, or otherwise ready-to-eat seafood or other animal products, fresh produce in ready-to-eat raw form, or other products that pose a risk of hazardous contamination.

(8) CATEGORY 4 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 4 food establishment’ means a food establishment that processes all other categories of food products not described in paragraphs (5) through (7).

(9) CATEGORY 5 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 5 food establishment’ means a food establishment that stores, holds, or transports food products prior to delivery for retail sale.

(10) CONTAMINANT- The term ‘contaminant’ includes a bacterium, chemical, natural toxin or manufactured toxicant, virus, parasite, prion, physical hazard, or other human pathogen that when found on or in food can cause human illness, injury, or death.

(11) HAZARDOUS CONTAMINATION- The term ‘hazardous contamination’ refers to the presence of a contaminant in food at levels that pose a risk of human illness, injury, or death or are capable of reaching levels that pose such risk during the shelf life of the product.

(12) FOOD- The term ‘food’ means a product intended to be used for food or drink for a human or an animal and components thereof.

(13) FOOD ESTABLISHMENT-

(A) IN GENERAL- The term ‘food establishment’ means a slaughterhouse (except those regulated under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or the Poultry Products Inspection Act), factory, warehouse, or facility owned or operated by a person located in any State that processes food or a facility that holds, stores, or transports food or food ingredients.

(B) EXCLUSIONS- For the purposes of registration, the term ‘food establishment’ does not include a food production facility as defined in paragraph (14), restaurant, other retail food establishment, nonprofit food establishment in which food is prepared for or served directly to the consumer, or fishing vessel (other than a fishing vessel engaged in processing, as that term is defined in section 123.3 of title 21, Code of Federal Regulations).

(14) FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY- The term ‘food production facility’ means any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation.

ben62670

Stay in the city Cathy. I have never had any issues with buying food from a food stand. This is just more control the government is taking. Who do you think is going to monitor the food in these smaller markets? We have to pay the government for a nearly non existent problem. You keep buying your food from overseas where the US government has no control over the produce being brought in. Lets just make it even worse for our farmers. Lets make ourselves even more dependent on foreign foods.
Ignorance is not bliss when it kicks you in the hind end.

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tonyb

Read up On Monsanto......the head of the FDA, a former Monsanto Exec, and this bill benefits them. Monsanto controls the whole seed market, and dictates to farmers what they can or can't grow. They are viewed as the devil to most farmers. Also key to note who the second biggest stock holder in Monsanto is, this guy has his fingers in everything, George Soros.

It's more to do with the language of the bill that offers up potential to govern pretty much anything to do with food,public or private. Funny thing is, I didn't know we had a food safety problem in a country that feeds 300 million daily. Who else has better food safety than us, China, Brazil, India, Europe ? Who ?

treitz3

tonyb wrote: »

It's more to do with the language of the bill that offers up potential to govern pretty much anything to do with food, public or private.

Now I think someone's on to what I'm reading into. This thread will die again, I'm sure.

We'll see you in a couple of years, if not sooner.......