Plane Stolen from International Airport.

BeRad
BeRad Posts: 736
edited April 2009 in The Clubhouse
Once again my city makes the news, but this time it isn't related to a Staal, Pyatt, Auld, or any other hockey player. Seriously, how can you steal a plane from an airport hanger???

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited April 2009
    BeRad wrote: »
    Once again my city makes the news, but this time it isn't related to a Staal, Pyatt, Auld, or any other hockey player. Seriously, how can you steal a plane from an airport hanger???

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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited April 2009
    Yes, how can you steal an airplane and fly to the US in a post 9/11 world?

    I wonder what he was thinking when he saw a pair of these.
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited April 2009
    Those 20mm Gatling's ain't NO joke. They're like chainsaws. Only WAAAAAY louder!
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,679
    edited April 2009
    Not a whole lot to do in Ellsinore; as he flew over, I tried to point him over to the western part of the state. He should have landed over by Van Buren where he could have picked up some killer biscuits and gravy at the FloatStream Restaurant.
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  • timlitton
    timlitton Posts: 289
    edited April 2009
    obieone wrote: »
    Those 20mm Gatling's ain't NO joke. They're like chainsaws. Only WAAAAAY louder!
    Well, may be if the joke goes something like:
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2009
    Maybe an experienced pilot could lean that thing out and make it to New Orleans from Thunder Bay. I don't think -172's have thousand mile ranges under normal ops.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    I dunno where they got that range from. Cessnas have a range of less than 800 miles. It's about 600-610 nautical miles. If my math is right, that's 775-790 miles. I remember hearing before that Cessna sold an extended range fuel tank for them at one point. I think you would lose some cargo space because of it and it would make the plane a bit wonky in flight. You'd of course lose payload capacity too but once you burned through the tank, the weight was gone and manners improved. It'd only get you about 150-200 more miles though. That'd still be 10 miles short of 1,000 but I could see a good pilot leaning that out. I don't see one picking up 200+ miles on a lean run even if you had a tail wind the whole way. You'd have to teeter on the edge of stalling to make it and it'd probably take you 20 hours of flying and the coasting in on fumes. That'd be like completely empty too. They cruise at 140 MPH though, not exactly blistering.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    By the way, New Orleans to Thunder Bay by car is over 1500 miles.

    For a Cessna 172 to make it all the way to New Orleans, even if it had an extra fuel tank, it would still only be able to carry about 600 pounds of extra fuel and he'd have to meet Mr Grand's KC-135 somewhere over Oklahoma to make it all the way without landing or...well, crashing.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2009
    They should make Cops: Plane-Jackers. I'd watch it.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited April 2009
    fatchowmein wrote: »
    Yes, how can you steal an airplane and fly to the US in a post 9/11 world?

    I wonder what he was thinking when he saw a pair of these.
    <img src="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-16c-19990601-f-0073c-005.jpg"&gt;
    Apparently he wanted them to shoot him down.He was on a suicide mission and wanted someone else to do the dirty work for him.Thankfully the fine gentlemen of USAF didn't oblige.Had he flown north into Russian air space he likely would have gotten his wish.
    It's sad that someone can get that destitude.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited April 2009
    I can't believe (well, sadly, I can believe) there are so many posts not about the incident, but about the "reporter's" claim that he could've made it all the way to NO.

    Kind of reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail:
    King Arthur: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
    King Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried.
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
    King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
    King Arthur: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited April 2009
    AndyGwis wrote: »
    I can't believe (well, sadly, I can believe) there are so many posts not about the incident, but about the "reporter's" claim that he could've made it all the way to NO.

    Kind of reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail:
    King Arthur: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
    King Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried.
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
    King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
    King Arthur: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
    1st soldier with a keen interest in birds: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?

    The original story only reports that some dunderhead decided to take a joyride in an airplane and violate U.S. airspace and some details surround the incident. It says nothing about his intentions. It does seem to make some outlandish claims on the performance of a Cessna too. That's why there are comments that seem to disregard the mental state of the place stealer but rather comment on the mental capacity of the reporter.

    If the kid was trying to kill himself, that sucks. But at the same time, I gotta give him some points for creativity. He should have headed towards D.C. or Chicago. He would have had more success in his mission...oh, wait, that was probably insensitive too. Sorry 'bout that.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2009
    If that boy was on a "suicide mission" as you say, there's an awful lot of big pine trees in between Canada and here, that he could've shoved up his own ****.

    There is an awful lot of criteria that has to be filled before they're going to gun him down. Trust me.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2009
    But pine trees don't make the news like worse events do...
    Jake
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  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited April 2009
    The man was a student of Confederation College (which has a stellar aviation program) and WAS training to become a pilot. He did not 'jump the fence' as has been reported. He had all necessary clearance with full access to the hanger which houses 3 (actually I THINK it's 4 now) Cessnas.

    I'm not sure what the US is doing, but the RCMP are treating this as a theft and nothing more. My favorite part of the story: that he went to a store to buy Gatorade and Jerky but didn't have enough cash for both so he just go the Gatorade. What great publicity for Gatorade. New ad: "Gatorade. 4 out of 5 hijackers agree: better than jerky!"

    Really though, I was hoping it would be a case of a bunch of idiots hanging out at one of our many scummy bars. One guy gets dared to steal a plane and another person chirps "Ya man do it. Fly it to Missouri or something, land on a highway, and pick up some Gatorade and jerky for me. I need a snack."
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited April 2009
    He WAS suicidal. Didn't have the seeds to do it himself.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512837,00.html

    BTW, nice going Canada. Be grateful this ****-clown didn't kill anyone. Stupid fux!
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  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited April 2009
    obieone wrote: »
    BTW, nice going Canada. Be grateful this ****-clown didn't kill anyone. Stupid fux!

    How did you know that this flight was part of an all encompassing Canadian-master-plan?
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited April 2009
    obieone wrote: »
    nice going Canada... Stupid fux!
    We may be stupid fux's but we have young men coming home in body bags from Afghanistan that are there protecting your interests from the threat of terrorism as well as ours.;)
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2009
    GV#27 wrote: »
    We may be stupid fux's but we have young men coming home in body bags from Afghanistan that are there protecting your interests from the threat of terrorism as well as ours.;)

    Very well said. One individual does not make a country.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2009
    GV#27,

    Just use your Ignore List for morons of all nationalities.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2009
    GV#27 wrote: »
    We may be stupid fux's but we have young men coming home in body bags from Afghanistan that are there protecting your interests from the threat of terrorism as well as ours.;)

    I'll acknowledge the thought and intelligence of this statement as well. Very well stated. Too bad the wisdom cannot be passed on to those who need it.
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited April 2009
    obieone wrote: »

    BTW, nice going Canada. Be grateful this ****-clown didn't kill anyone. Stupid fux!

    This kind of disrespectful antisocial crap deserves a ban from the forum.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2009
    Just put him on your Ignore List. Nobody gets banned from here anymore it appears, no matter how badly they beg for it.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited April 2009
    obieone wrote: »
    nice going Canada. Stupid fux!

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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2009
    Happily reported this morning.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,679
    edited April 2009
    GV#27 wrote: »
    We may be stupid fux's but we have young men coming home in body bags from Afghanistan that are there protecting your interests from the threat of terrorism as well as ours.;)


    I may like to tweak your Canadian guys' noses, but in no way, shape, fashion, or form are you Canadians "stupid fux's" as referred to by Professor CheeseWhiz.
    In fact, if this country had more true allies and friends such as yourselves, we (and possibly the world) would be better off.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited April 2009
    mrbigbluelight wrote: »
    I may like to tweak your Canadian guys' noses, but in no way, shape, fashion, or form are you Canadians "stupid fux's" as referred to by Professor CheeseWhiz.
    In fact, if this country had more true allies and friends such as yourselves, we (and possibly the world) would be better off.
    Excellent post,thanks and thank you engtaz and George G for the positive remarks aswell.
    We consider ourselves very fortunate to have such a good neighbor and trading partner to our south.
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  • BeRad
    BeRad Posts: 736
    edited April 2009
    GV#27 wrote: »
    Excellent post,thanks and thank you engtaz and George G for the positive remarks aswell.
    We consider ourselves very fortunate to have such a good neighbor and trading partner to our south.

    Too true!

    I end up in the states quite often (annual week in Vegas, concerts, golfing trips or just weekend road trips to get trashed in another country!) and have yet to have a bad or remotely negative experience with anybody. Even the cops seem to one-up our police on the politeness front!

    As far as a trading partner, well, if it wasn't for the USA, my city wouldn't have half the population it does. This is a forestry/paper town whose primary newsprint customers were American newspapers. Maybe the plane thief just wanted to help out by finding a faster way to deliver the paper! lol
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2009
    obieone wrote: »
    He WAS suicidal. Didn't have the seeds to do it himself.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512837,00.html

    Quoting Fox "News" is not a sign of a high, or even moderate, IQ level.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited April 2009
    BeRad wrote: »
    This is a forestry/paper town whose primary newsprint customers were American newspapers.
    And the Hockey factory known as the Stahl brothers.I had the pleasure of seeing Eric and Jordon play for the Petes.
    Maybe the plane thief just wanted to help out by finding a faster way to deliver the paper!
    Or maybe he heard the Gatorade and jerky were better in Missouri:D
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