I want to go large again

ben62670
ben62670 Posts: 15,969
edited April 2009 in Vintage Speakers
I have the bass. I have the mids, and the highs, but I don't have the serious punch in the chest like I had with the big boys. Jerry's speakers are just sick compared to mine in the hit you like sound. Robert plant ship of fools is just awesome on his speakers. The punch of the drums is incredible. I want that back. I had it, but I need to figure something out that works in my environment. I predict more MDF dust.
Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
Ben
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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited April 2009
    Yep, if you want horsepower there's no substitute for cubic inches!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2009
    Ben,, given your home/listening area,,I think that the following is right up your alley.

    Single driver speakers, (1 pair) SET amp, pre of you choice/build, and a sub.with your skills, you could build it all.It is my understanding that the single driver speakers have no caps,it's mainly in the design and construction of the enclosure.Just a thought,might be fun.All for now,, off to the job.;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2009
    Why don't you just build what Jerry has and add a sealed sub?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited April 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    I predict more MDF dust.


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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited April 2009
    Got yer large right here, Ben.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2009
    How about these guys? :D

    colossi-large.jpg
    Jake
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,211
    edited April 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Why don't you just build what Jerry has and add a sealed sub?
    Um *crunches carrot*, yeah doc. Why don't 'cha just do that?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • CowboyRJB2
    CowboyRJB2 Posts: 58
    edited April 2009
    Check these out.....

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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited April 2009
    Going Large is Great! Who wants to be small anyway? :D

    The question is How Large this time? Bigger than your Humongous SDA?
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • jrgoswick
    jrgoswick Posts: 159
    edited April 2009
    HB27 wrote: »
    Yep, if you want horsepower there's no substitute for cubic inches!

    Cubic money, so said Enzo.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    zingo wrote: »
    How about these guys? :D

    colossi-large.jpg

    Hey Jake I am thinking along that line, but incorperating SDA into the design. The problem is ribbons don't play off axis as well as dome tweeters.
    We shall see.


    As for Jerry's speakers I want to out do him. Love the guy, but I want to have the best. We are working on some improvements. We are looking at 1.2 TL style, but they are so perfect sound stage wise I don't want to EF with them. George you need to get back to Jerry's house to check them out. Listen to ship of fools on them. The drums are real hard to reproduce, but Jerry's speakers do it in spades!!! In friggen spades. Unfreaken believable since he spread them out. It makes me wonder how many people are missing out on the proper SDA effect by not have the right gear, wires, source, amps to run it right. Also he added a Carver M1.5T on the tweeters which he reports kills the EMO he was running for highs. He also reports that it kills my Adcom's on the highs. There may be a fight. Blood may be shed, but if the imaging is better I may be hunting for a Carver on the highs. Tube buffer is what we are looking as an option for certain genre of music.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    also he added a carver m1.5t on the tweeters which he reports kills the emo he was running for highs. He also reports that it kills my adcom's on the highs. There may be a fight. Blood may be shed, but if the imaging is better i may be hunting for a carver on the highs. Tube buffer is what we are looking as an option for certain genre of music.

    rotflmao
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    Well Jerry has a TFM15 for me to play with. I am going to try that on the highs. Also I am thinking 6 stereo drivers, and 6 dimensional drivers. I may be looking at getting some Carver 48" ribbons for the highs. Tom you ****. You cursed me. I said I was done, and now I am continuing on. The sickness you have is contagious. I don't know if it is curable, but I am banishing you from my household till the next time you come down. If I get any worse I am going to drive ice picks through my ears.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,981
    edited April 2009
    As Paul W. Klipsch said (more or less), "You can't miniaturize a 16 Hz sound wave".

    Build yourself a couple of El-Pipe-O subwoofers and be done with it.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81248#post1045236
    http://www.passdiy.com/pdf/el-pipe-o.pdf
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2009
    TFM 15 is too wimpy for you Ben.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2009
    What drivers are you looking at using Ben? I remember what put you over the edge with your big'ins was the SQ of "vintage" drivers verses newer technology drivers.
    Jake
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    As Paul W. Klipsch said (more or less), "You can't miniaturize a 16 Hz sound wave".

    Build yourself a couple of El-Pipe-O subwoofers and be done with it.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81248#post1045236
    http://www.passdiy.com/pdf/el-pipe-o.pdf
    I had the sonosub, and liked it, but it wasn't as musical as the sealed. I am not going to go huge, but I want more driver surface on the mids. It was fun to see the look on peoples faces when they saw the bigguns, but they just don't work in my home. I am going to probably sell them after a treatment of veneer. I will no longer have the worlds largest SDA's. Well till I move or rip out some walls;)
    zingo wrote: »
    What drivers are you looking at using Ben? I remember what put you over the edge with your big'ins was the SQ of "vintage" drivers verses newer technology drivers.

    SilverFlutes again. I am going to go with the same drivers as Jerry has except I want to use 6 dims, and 6 stereos in a sealed chamber with the 15" woofers doing stereo bass. Never going back to mono subs for music.
    engtaz wrote: »
    TFM 15 is too wimpy for you Ben.

    Just to drive a pair of tweeters;) I don't go crazy with the volume much anymore. Once in a while I'll hit 116db. Well the subs I have not tested the SPL output.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited April 2009
    Just build a complete SRT set.
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Just to drive a pair of tweeters;) I don't go crazy with the volume much anymore. Once in a while I'll hit 116db. Well the subs I have not tested the SPL output.

    rotflmao :)
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited April 2009
    ESAVINON wrote: »
    Just build a complete SRT set.

    Why, so you can buy another set. LOL :D
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    The fronts have some similarities of both SDA, and SRT;) I do want to get my ears on the SRT subs. I have heard great things about them. Did you get your new set of SRT's?
    Why, so you can buy another set. LOL
    Too funny. I was thinking the same thing!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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