NEW SS Preamp with Phono section?

bobt
bobt Posts: 280
edited March 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
Trying to find a preamp with a good Phono section...Under 1K!!!!!

So far I find, the new NAD C 165....looks good, called one place that had it..the guy said the Phono section was ..so-so...but in the same breath recomended the NAD PP-2????
Why would they use a cheap phone section on there high dollor preamp..when the PP-2 can be had for $125??????

I also looked at the Parasound P3...just MM stuff..which was not a hit with anybody, and the Adcom GFP-715...which i thought had the best phono section they made(from the older models)...no mag reviews on this but..just no great statements from anybody.

Anybody have a better choice ..in the under 1k list?????
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2009
    What kind of cables are you going to hook it up with?
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    What dose a cable have to do with the quality of a preamp phono section?
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited March 2009
    I would look at Musical Fidelity products. I think the MF 308 would be the best $1K preamp you can find.

    If you don't have a great amp already or would consider an integrated, I would look at the MF A308 integrated and or any of their other products.

    Great stuff, in my opinion, and just about all the integrateds and preamps come with MM and MC phono.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?preatran&1240623039&/Musical-Fidelity-A308CR-perfec
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited March 2009
    I am with Andy on this one:D
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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  • Ender
    Ender Posts: 603
    edited March 2009
    Phono section as in... headphones? You know there are DAC/Amps for headphones, right? Check out Head-Fi.
    bobt wrote: »
    Trying to find a preamp with a good Phono section...Under 1K!!!!!

    So far I find, the new NAD C 165....looks good, called one place that had it..the guy said the Phono section was ..so-so...but in the same breath recomended the NAD PP-2????
    Why would they use a cheap phone section on there high dollor preamp..when the PP-2 can be had for $125??????

    I also looked at the Parasound P3...just MM stuff..which was not a hit with anybody, and the Adcom GFP-715...which i thought had the best phono section they made(from the older models)...no mag reviews on this but..just no great statements from anybody.

    Anybody have a better choice ..in the under 1k list?????
    SDA 1C, SDA 2A, SDA SRS 2, CMT-340SE, Swan M200MKII, Swan D1080MKII, Behringer MS40

    Outlaw Audio M2200 x2, GFA 555 II, BGW 750C

    GDA 700, Outlaw Audio Model 990, Sansa Fuze, X-Fi Platinum Fatality
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2009
    Agree, Musical Fidelity in the under $1k bracket.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    edited March 2009
    Rotel RC-1070 with MM phono ($500)
    Rotel RC-1082 with MC/MM phono ($1200)
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited March 2009
    Ender wrote: »
    Phono section as in... headphones? You know there are DAC/Amps for headphones, right? Check out Head-Fi.

    As in phonograph.
    Wristwatch--->Crisco
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2009
    if you are going used, the adcom 565 phono pre is excellent also.
    Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2009
    Go with a high quality cable between the cartridge and the preamp, it makes a huge difference.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Ender
    Ender Posts: 603
    edited March 2009
    strider wrote: »
    As in phonograph.

    LOL. Ah. I haven't gone into vinyl yet at all as I'm sure you could tell.
    SDA 1C, SDA 2A, SDA SRS 2, CMT-340SE, Swan M200MKII, Swan D1080MKII, Behringer MS40

    Outlaw Audio M2200 x2, GFA 555 II, BGW 750C

    GDA 700, Outlaw Audio Model 990, Sansa Fuze, X-Fi Platinum Fatality
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited March 2009
    There a Odyssey Audio Tempest Extreme at Audiogon for $450.
    That should put a smile on your face!
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited March 2009
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?preatran&1242424250&/Bryston-BP5

    How about a Bryston with a warranty until 2015?
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Yeah I thought the NEW Adcom was supposed to have the stuff from the 565... But I guess not...I don't see anybody say anything good about it.
    But for the price..I guess they just went lowball on it?????????
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    The Rotel stuff..looks nice, but I can't find any good reviews on the PHONO or TT section..mostly "Rotel" people...and they don't even use the phono section. It looks nice ..dam for the price..but to be honest..I'd go with the Adcom..at that price...they never make a BAD preamp....as Sterophile puts it...they never make a bad, nor great preamp, it never thrills them...but never trash either.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited March 2009
    I've had Parasound ,Nad, and Rotel. For $500-1000 you can go nuts on
    Audiogon. Or even in the Polk FM. And do a lot better than those.
    None of those I mentioned were more that $200 used. In your price range,
    some truly great preamps are out there with some careful shopping. Or at
    the least, pretty good. Embrace used, demo, and tradeins. There's a lot of
    shops that take in gently used trades.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited March 2009
    Here's a Classe'. Good stuff and way under budget.
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?preatran&1243446192&/Classe-30
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