Speaker HISTORY - original LARGE advent's

dee1949
dee1949 Posts: 1,425
edited March 2011 in The Clubhouse
....How many members are nearing 60 .... and.... who's first pair of speakers were the ORIGINAL large or small Advent's....1968 - 74. It really was the "ADVENT" of sound. In that period I also had KLH ? and Dynaco 25's. Unfortunately never had great quality components to drive them.

Moved on the JBL Century 100's...for the ROCK area. and Bose 901's and so on and sooooooo....

...Well.....today I just GOT 2 pairs of the ORIGINAL advents....1 LARGE (wood veneer) and 1 small (viynl). (Hardening of the arteries setting in "foam")

WOW........fantastic midrange....lots of AIR. Maybe too much SPARKLE....but at my age....luv it. Got to get my old Dynaco st70 going. Also some great sounding bass.

Every ONE should have 2 sets of audio components. One "CLASSIC" and one contemporary. "Audio" is an ART form as well as the MUSIC. It's always a great experience to compare "past" & "present".
............. 2 Appreciate is 2 Experience!!!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2009
    Fascinating.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2009
    I gave my X a pair of Advent Heritage speakers. When I hooked them up for her I was disappointed. They sounded pretty good. Should have kept them. As for when they were made I have no idea.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2009
    I still have a pair of KLH Model Sixes. Not nearing 60 yet...but certainly over 50? More than a few of us boomers here, I suspect. Never could do the Bose thing...went directly to JBL 4413 SM which I still have and like.

    cnh
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2009
    My first pair of real speakers were AR-4x bookshelf speakers which are from that same era. I bought mine in 1969 or 1970 IIRC. My pair of Large Advents came a little later. I still have them both.
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  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited March 2009
    ....took me all these Years to get back to the PAST. My main speakers - NOW - are Maggies MG-1 rebuilt and with new crossovers. Power is an ole Nad 2600 which is ornery.......think it has bad solder joint on rca jack. Ole Dual 1219 TT w/original Shure v15 III cartridge.

    ...also Polk SDA 2b's driven by B&K ST-140.......preamp for both is B&K pro10mc.

    ...secondary system is the amp section or Proton D540 w/Fosgate preamp driving the Advents----Genesis Physics II's
    IMF Compact 3's ----DCM qed's and Polk Monitor 4's, amongst others.

    ...the joy of AUDIO !!!

    ...do have a 5 channel system with assortment of Paradigm Definitive etc.But not the same as good ole 2 channel of the past.
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2009
    No such animal as a "Large" Advent loudspeaker. It was either The Advent Loudspeaker, or The Smaller Advent Loudspeaker.

    The "New" Advent Loudspeaker was in Stephie's room for about ten years, but I sold them about 2 years ago and replaced them with AR-302's. I also recently moved a pair of Advent "Graduate" out of here, an 8" two-way. The original KLH Model 6 I bought in 1974 are in Tiff's old bedroom. I also have AR-5, AR-9, AR-338, AR-28, and RA Labs (Roy Allison) Mini-Reference.
    I also have a couple pair of Dynaco A-25 and one pair of A-50.
  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,079
    edited March 2009
    The old Advent speakers my uncle had are what made me become an audio nut.
  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited March 2009
    ....Another DAY and another pair of CLASSICs. Weird how all these deals come in pairs. I just got a pair of Dalhquest M-907's . They are a 3 way speakers made in late 80's - early 90's. Swear they use the ORIGINAL Advent woofer (masonite foam surround) but 20 years later. "doG" ...what accurate deep base.....great air...great everything so far and I have'nt even dealt with placement except for putting them up on 8" stands. NO ! again.. NO ! subwoofer needed. Whats weird...can't find out much about these. Diffidently a sleeper. Next is the Dalhquest DQ-10's.......never heard them....but with these 3 ways ...can imagine.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2009
    That's awesome...and a terrible loudspeaker. The last good Dahlquist? The DQ10. I have a pair ready for battle in my closet.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    edited March 2009
    The old Advent speakers my uncle had are what made me become an audio nut.

    +1 The first good system I ever heard was my uncle's Teac RTR, a Marantz receiver, and a pair of the old advents in the 70's. It was in a different world compared to anything else I'd heard at the time.
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  • maggiefan
    maggiefan Posts: 223
    edited March 2009
    I had a pair of small Advents in the early '70's. They were used in a bedroom, not for the main system. Those were Altec's, can't remember the model number but they were called "voice of the theater". They were classics, about the size of a dishwasher and sounded great. Had McIntosh seperates driving them. Those were the days.....:)
    Larry
  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited March 2009
    I had stacked walnut Advent Loudspeakers back in the day and I have to tell you they sounded real good!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited March 2009
    Still have my Advent 1s that I bought new in 78 or 79, they've needed new surrounds since 1990 or so. Maybe someday I'll get em going again but for now my Polks are getting all the love and attention. I'm an old **** of 56:eek:
  • LarryK
    LarryK Posts: 38
    edited March 2009
    Ditto Roy - Stacked walnut Advent's here too. Those were the days!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2009
    There was an article in The Absolute Sound that reviewed the "Stacked Advents". I posted the link here in a thread a couple of years ago. They republished it in their 30th Anniversary issue. Unfortunately TAS online archives is no longer with us and the link is no good. If you know the issue, they will sell you a PDF copy. A quick internet search yielded no results. I think I saved a copy on my computer at home. I will have to check. If so I will try to post it here. In the meantime here is the Stereophile review of The Advent Loudspeaker from 1976. The third page has a rebuttal (or clarification) of some points by Henry Kloss. It's a nice short read.

    http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/171advent/
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited March 2009
    My old AR9's ended my search for 2 channel speakers. sure, there might be better out there, I just dont feel like paying the ridiculous money for it.

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited March 2009
    I'm no where near 60 but I still have my first set of KLH 17's that made the rounds here. They are about 8 years older than i am. I should have known the little **** were promiscuous though. All tarted up in the green paint from RuSsMaN...yeah, naughty little devils because I left them in a closet by themselves and several months later, I had 9 more pairs of 17's a pair of 6's, a pair of 22's and a pair of 20's.

    I can build a complete home theater with KLH 17's and and will eventually have the rest of the parts to finish my tube amps for it. Oh, I have a couple of beat KLH 17 enclosures which I think I am going to port with the 3 inch tweeter hole and load with subs so that even the subs look the same. I'll have to use solid state power for those though.

    I just wish I could find fabric somewhere that matched that KLH tweed.
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  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited March 2009
    ....anybody KNOW anything about the Dalhquest M-907's. Its a 3 way - with what looks like - an ADVENT masonite woofer. Don't think the rest of the M line used them.

    Doro ! .......any reason you don't like this line? These were still from the original Dalhquest - Monitor line. I think they have great bass and a SWEET MID and upper range. Great build quality with real walnut veneer. Deeper base than the Polk Monitor 10's and better mids and highs from my memory. I have the SDA 2B's now and they are a different animal. Both sound fantastic in their own rite as do my Maggie MG 1's.

    ....also have a pair of IMF Compact Monitor 3's in search of a midrange ( rotted foam ).
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited March 2011
    dee1949 wrote: »
    ....How many members are nearing 60 .... and.... who's first pair of speakers were the ORIGINAL large or small Advent's....1968 - 74. It really was the "ADVENT" of sound. In that period I also had KLH ? and Dynaco 25's. Unfortunately never had great quality components to drive them.

    Moved on the JBL Century 100's...for the ROCK area. and Bose 901's and so on and sooooooo....

    ...Well.....today I just GOT 2 pairs of the ORIGINAL advents....1 LARGE (wood veneer) and 1 small (viynl). (Hardening of the arteries setting in "foam")

    WOW........fantastic midrange....lots of AIR. Maybe too much SPARKLE....but at my age....luv it. Got to get my old Dynaco st70 going. Also some great sounding bass.

    Every ONE should have 2 sets of audio components. One "CLASSIC" and one contemporary. "Audio" is an ART form as well as the MUSIC. It's always a great experience to compare "past" & "present".
    ............. 2 Appreciate is 2 Experience!!!

    I'm amazed to find this thread here!

    I'm in the process of buying a pair of Advent Heritage 2-ways locally (that are identical to the pair listed here for sale on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220758967660) for my son's rig.

    Although amazingly they are not shot just yet, I'm going to have all 4 8" woofers re-foamed which will run about $140.

    These are the specs and I'll post up some images when I have them here:

    -- Advent Heritage 2-way floor-standing speakers:
    --- Two 8" aluminum-coil woofers
    --- One 1" ferrofluid parabolic dome tweeter
    --- Power Handling Capacity: 150W RMS
    --- Frequency Response: 42-23,000 Hz +/-3dB
    --- Sensitivity:89 dB @ 2.83 V/m (1watt)
    --- Dynamic Impedance: 6 ohms
    --- Crossover Point: 3500Hz
    --- THD: < 0.5% about 75Hz at 1W
    --- Resonance 55Hz +/- 5Hz
    --- Dimensions: 38" High x 10-1/2" Wide x 13" Deep
    --- List Price: $700 per pair

    I'm not sure how good these will be but my son craves a tad more bass than his current Polk Monitor 5Jr+'s can muster.

    Any tips as to how to maximize the sound?
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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited March 2011
    Jstas wrote: »
    I'm no where near 60 but I still have my first set of KLH 17's that made the rounds here. They are about 8 years older than i am. I should have known the little **** were promiscuous though. All tarted up in the green paint from RuSsMaN...yeah, naughty little devils because I left them in a closet by themselves and several months later, I had 9 more pairs of 17's a pair of 6's, a pair of 22's and a pair of 20's.

    I can build a complete home theater with KLH 17's and and will eventually have the rest of the parts to finish my tube amps for it. Oh, I have a couple of beat KLH 17 enclosures which I think I am going to port with the 3 inch tweeter hole and load with subs so that even the subs look the same. I'll have to use solid state power for those though.

    I just wish I could find fabric somewhere that matched that KLH tweed.


    +1 on the KLH complete home theatre system... sounds like a good idea to me too, I have 2 pair of 17s and two pair of model 20s, a single 24... I'm thinking a pair of 24s would make a nice center channel speaker.

    check out this fabric... and let me know how it works out for you :)

    http://www.fabrics-store.com/first.php?goto=big_fabric&menu=f&menu=f&fabric_id=1176

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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited March 2011
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Fascinating.

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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,713
    edited March 2011
    Because nobody around our berg replies to inquires about their Craigslist merchandice, maybe somebody here with better eyesight can answer this:

    Are these the Smaller Advent ?

    Advent.jpg


    http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ele/2278857428.html
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,610
    edited March 2011
    My Dad had a pair of these....

    I helped him refoam the woofers and later refinished them.
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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited March 2011
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That's awesome...and a terrible loudspeaker. The last good Dahlquist? The DQ10. I have a pair ready for battle in my closet.

    I am a devoted DQ-10 fan, had as many as 3 pairs at the same time, still have one primo pair.

    Bought some DQ-20's recently. Set them up with the DQ-10's and A/B'd them. I think the 20's actually beat the DQ-10's.

    The DQ-20's are now my current favorite. Check them out if you can
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2011
    No, those are not the Smaller Advent. Those look like Advent Baby (6" two-way), or Graduate (8" two-way) with that pecan top.

    I once used six KLH Model 6's along with the 6-channel ADS 10 surround processor. It was before home theater, and there was no center channel but side and rear channels. Sounded great.