Shotgun S2 - in da house

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,654
edited March 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
Finally getting my ears wet with these cables --

Just have the interconnects right now...

Shall see what happens! :)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited March 2009
    Trey, don't even try to evaluate them until they have at least 50 hours. The more the better.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Ah, I know - I remember my last cable trade out with the Signals... long burn in process with a significant change in performance.. expecting no less here.

    The S2 bi-wire cables arrive Wednesday... (maybe if I can somehow get them to me since I have to sign for them and I wont be home)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2009
    I tried the S3's in my rig, and also with Jerry's speakers. They did add extra/fuller bass. I don't know if I would use more than one set in your system if you have plenty of bass. Also burn them in between your CDP, and pre. Later I think they will be best suited between pre and amps:)
    Take care. Enjoy. I did:)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Thanks! I am planning to go all Shotguns if these work out for me...

    So will see -- Will be Shotgun S2 biwire cables, the S2 interconnect and four power cable (AC1) ---

    So, who knows...

    But one thing I should note is the MIT Discount Store is selling new cables for refurbished ones - they have to be. The cables look new, 100%
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Ill take color as long as it is like you said! ;)

    I am liking what I hear so far - lets put it that way!
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2009
    An extremely colored cable? Hmmmm...

    I'll give 'em three weeks.
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,338
    edited March 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    But one thing I should note is the MIT Discount Store is selling new cables for refurbished ones - they have to be. The cables look new, 100%

    I noticed this also. I recently got some MIT cables and they were brand new. I think MIT is selling these for less than Joe Abrams is buying them. I suspect he is paying the same price we are. They must need the cash.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    I can believe it -

    I will emailed them about some off-site items and was offered a very similar deal on NEW products... can't complain. I picked up these cables for far less than used value!

    But yeah, manuals - box, everything seemed untouched. Not a scratch anywhere!

    But from my initial impressions - they seem like they will be worth the investment... 100%
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited March 2009
    Just a note......MIT cables do not show wear easily and when they refurb them, they truly are like new.
    MIT cables are extremely colored.

    I suppose that would depend on what ones definition of colored is. If one finds that a natural tone, perfect balance, wide and deep sound stage, deep, fast and tight bass with glorious mids and silky smooth highs to be colored, then colored they are.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited March 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    I suppose that would depend on what ones definition of colored is. If one finds that a natural tone, perfect balance, wide and deep sound stage, deep, fast and tight bass with glorious mids and silky smooth highs to be colored, then colored they are.
    You forgot improved imaging.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2009
    Early B. wrote: »
    An extremely colored cable? Hmmmm...

    I'll give 'em three weeks.

    It'll take that long to burn them in.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2009
    natural tone is not colored, just someone needing to add a bit of pigweed to the pot as we make our mulligan stew. I find my cables to be quite transparent and natural otherwise I would likely have dumped them long ago.

    knowing the sound you like is a bit forward Trey it will be interesting to hear your impressions.

    RT1
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited March 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    knowing the sound you like is a bit forward Trey it will be interesting to hear your impressions.

    RT1
    If that's the case, he may prefer the AVt MA's. I found them(the I/C) a little more forward and transparent compared to S2's.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,171
    edited March 2009
    Zero wrote: »
    MIT cables are extremely colored.

    Actually I find many other cables to be lacking.

    YMMV

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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited March 2009
    Zero wrote: »
    MIT cables are extremely colored. That said, at least their color is consistent and arguably enjoyable. Congrats Sid. They're a fine upgrade from your Signals.

    I'll qualify I'm by no means an expert, but I'm learning a lot. I've carefully listened to 6 different cables (7 if you count basic 12 gauge zip cord) in the past 4 months before settling into Shotgun 2 Speaker Interface Cables and IC's

    In my humble opinion, I don't believe "colored" is a fair word to use in describing the Shotgun 2's.

    I have parametric bass and treble controls plus a bass equalization circuit button on both my NAD preamp/amp and receiver. I used to increase both treble and bass, and used the bass equalization to create what I deemed to be "neutral", "uncolored" sound. On each step up in speaker cabling, I was able to reduce the levels used on the controls.

    With the Shotgun 2's now burned in, I entirely bypass all tone control (a button takes the entire circuit completely out of play). and I do not use the equalization button taking that circuit completely out of play also. the Shotgun 2's reproduce what I have defined as "neutral", "uncolored" sound for over 20 years.

    We could argue for days that my amps or speakers (or even the age of my ears) "color" the sound, but to my ears at least, the Shotguns produce the proper balance with no extraneous modification.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited March 2009
    Try their speaker cables too. My system has not sounded right since I sold mine. (Was in a financial bind at the time).
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Good to hear the speaker cables are equally as impressive - they arrive tomorrow if I can arrange something that will work!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Speaker cables are here - burning them in...

    Again like new 100% --

    One word - WOW

    Four power cables will be here next week to tie it all together --- MIT cut me a stupid good deal on them. Awesome
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    I am obviously going on first impressions --

    If these cables get any better with time, I will have easily bested my Dad's setup is "air" and clarity - that I am sure of.

    What an amazing difference. One of the best upgrades I have ever done. Thanks for all the raves for the MIT products.

    I am hoping the power cables will make a substantial difference as well!

    Thanks guys!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Heres a pic...
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,171
    edited March 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I am obviously going on first impressions --

    If these cables get any better with time, I will have easily bested my Dad's setup is "air" and clarity - that I am sure of.

    What an amazing difference. One of the best upgrades I have ever done. Thanks for all the raves for the MIT products.

    I am hoping the power cables will make a substantial difference as well!

    Thanks guys!

    Yeah, well all of us have been saying this for awhile..............well except Sean, he say's they highly color everything :rolleyes::D:)

    H9
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  • sir_lagzalot
    sir_lagzalot Posts: 258
    edited March 2009
    I just won a pair of Shotgun S2 speaker cables and two pairs of S2 interconnects, so I glad to hear they sound good, I just hope they're not to short.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited March 2009
    So, you're the lucky Mr. Clark........Congrats!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    You are one lucky man - that is for sure. A great set of cables, hands down.
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  • sir_lagzalot
    sir_lagzalot Posts: 258
    edited March 2009
    Thank you, yeah I could'nt believe it :)
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    Rears 65-RT
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited March 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I am obviously going on first impressions --

    If these cables get any better with time, I will have easily bested my Dad's setup is "air" and clarity - that I am sure of.
    You should be in for a pleasant surprise.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited March 2009
    Another MIT convert in da house.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,654
    edited March 2009
    Yeah, even my girlfriend who could care less about this stuff -- I had a song on she had heard many times before...

    She immediately said- wow, that is much clearer...

    The difference is amazing.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2009
    sir_lagzalot wrote: »
    I just won a pair of Shotgun S2 speaker cables and two pairs of S2 interconnects, so I glad to hear they sound good, I just hope they're not to short.

    congrats but I am pretty sure they are too short, I am offering an economic stimulas package to you for these cables.

    RT1
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited March 2009
    Glad your diggin' 'em Sid,speaking of the girlfriend,don't make me a liar in my 2009 predictions kiddo.Sell those MIT cables now while resale is high,weddings cost a truck load these days ya know.:D
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