Talked to the people at KAB

bobt
bobt Posts: 280
edited March 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
MY SL 1700..was made in the 1970's...sometime.
The motor was a tad different from the 1200..but nothing i could hear.
They don't make parts for this..but the head shells are interchangeable.
They don't have a rewire kit for this. But say..it's not that bad as is.

So i can just cut off the old rca plugs...put on some new gold plated stuff, and get a new headshell.....which is just easyer to to put cartragies in.

So once agian...this table will beet the crap out of way over priced Raga or VPI stuff. My table is at least 30LB's....total sprung....NEVER had a problem with volume..thats why I bought it. Plus is built like a tank. To be honest I have never found a table that comes close..even for mega bucks......
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2009
    Pic's please.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2009
    bobt wrote: »
    MY SL 1700..was made in the 1970's...sometime.
    The motor was a tad different from the 1200..but nothing i could hear.
    They don't make parts for this..but the head shells are interchangeable.
    They don't have a rewire kit for this. But say..it's not that bad as is.

    So i can just cut off the old rca plugs...put on some new gold plated stuff, and get a new headshell.....which is just easyer to to put cartragies in.

    So once agian...this table will beet the crap out of way over priced Raga or VPI stuff. My table is at least 30LB's....total sprung....NEVER had a problem with volume..thats why I bought it. Plus is built like a tank. To be honest I have never found a table that comes close..even for mega bucks......

    My VPI platter alone is 26 lbs. I wouldn't say VPI or Rega is overpriced.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Your kidding?....you realy what to see pic's of my 1970's TT???

    to be honest don't even know how to do that...LOL
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Well this is not to get any body bent.......nor do i think these tables are bad.
    Just for the price...these tables...just don't cut it..to match with the SL1200.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2009
    bobt wrote: »
    Your kidding?....you realy what to see pic's of my 1970's TT??? To be honest don't even know how to do that...LOL
    Yes, there are those that dig vintage gear here. There are many ways to post a pic. One way is to go to Photobucket and upload your pic onto their hosting site. Then when you are making the post with the pic in it, hit the little box at the top of where you are typing the post that shows a "set of mountains. Then attach the http: of the picture in the box that appears.

    I would suggest you try this a couple of times in the testing area to be sure you get it right. I hope this helps.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Ok.. all i know is table weighs a ton.....and has full supspention...so you can play the 1812...at insane volumes and no problem. So you can take that for what you want...........
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited March 2009
    bobt wrote: »
    So once agian...this table will beet the crap out of way over priced Raga or VPI stuff. My table is at least 30LB's....total sprung....NEVER had a problem with volume..thats why I bought it. Plus is built like a tank. To be honest I have never found a table that comes close..even for mega bucks......
    bobt wrote: »
    Ok.. all i know is table weighs a ton.....and has full supspention...so you can play the 1812...at insane volumes and no problem. So you can take that for what you want...........

    So, you have compared the mentioned TTs with yours in the same system in order to make that statement? Or is this just a guess? Does your TT/cart retrieve a more refined and detailed signal or does it just go louder without feedback?

    I'm not bent, just wondering how you arrived at your conclusions. Thanks for sharing .
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Yup...that is it......a great TT.......
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    NO JM I have NOT compared these TT....it also has to do with the cartrige you pic out. I have not said..any of these are junk...they are just not as good as the SL-1200..price verse quality. At this price point........
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2009
    bobt wrote: »
    NO JM I have NOT compared these TT....it also has to do with the cartrige you pic out. I have not said..any of these are junk...they are just not as good as the SL-1200..price verse quality. At this price point........

    I don't think VPI makes a table at that price point.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Well..like i said.....hey buy what you want...I have not tried this stuff out.
    If you want to go look at the specs...the SL stuff is better, for the most part,

    But Price VS perfomance..just a better TT.....but thats just me....
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited March 2009
    I feel a hot breeze.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2009
    To paraphrase:
    I've never, heard or compared the other tables so I don't really know anything about them...other than what I've read about them...and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt...mine is better...because it is REAL heavy and has springy things.

    F1nut wrote:
    I feel a hot breeze.

    YA THINK? :rolleyes:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2009
    Even though I have gas........it wazzn't me. Think I'll slide out now........
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited March 2009
    Before I purchased a VPI, I tried all of the TTs (all Technics models with AT carts) from that era I had saved from my prior analog life. Regardless of their current cost, I could not live with the performance (price VS performance ratio in your case) of these TTs.

    So I purchased the base model Scout. There really wasn't any comparison other than they all played LPs. Yes it cost more, but the results were worth it for me. I gave away all the old TTs as I would not even use one for a backup.

    Its also disappointing to see you proclaiming a better product based on specs without actually listening. At one point I had three 120 wpc amps. The one with the 'best' specs sounded the worst.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited March 2009
    Well, like i said..don't get me wrong here. Price dose have to be figured in, unless you have bottomless pockets. Nor did i say a 450 dollor SL is better then a 1K+ VPI. What i did say, is for 450, the SL pretty much has no peer.

    IN that Price point. Hence..price VS Performance.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited March 2009
    bobt wrote: »
    Well, like i said..don't get me wrong here. Price dose have to be figured in, unless you have bottomless pockets. Nor did i say a 450 dollor SL is better then a 1K+ VPI. What i did say, is for 450, the SL pretty much has no peer.

    IN that Price point. Hence..price VS Performance.

    Which $450 TTs have you compared it to. I bet I have a > $450 TT made within the last couple of years that is every bit as good as the SL...only it doesn't weigh 30 lbs or have springs...It just performs very well.
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